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Ex Theists
August 11, 2009 at 3:51 am
How many atheists here started their lives as theists and how many have never been religious? Also, do you think that those who became atheist later on in life are better equipped to argue the case for atheism than those who have never been subjected to religious indoctrination?
For example, I didn't even realise I was an atheist until my teens and thought it very strange that people gave me a specific name for something that I didn't believe in or gave very little thought to.
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RE: Ex Theists
August 11, 2009 at 3:53 am
I've never been religious though I did go through the motions as was mandatory in school.
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RE: Ex Theists
August 11, 2009 at 5:04 am
I was never religious either. Thankfully my parents were atheists and gave me the option to go into religion or have nothing to do with it. I heard the god claim when I was around 7-8 and thought it was a joke. Turns out later on I was right.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Ex Theists
August 11, 2009 at 7:33 am
I was christian, Presbyterian by birth. I stopped that at about 10. I knew with my mind and skepticism there were huge flaws in their faith. I became a devout atheist. I then became a boring agnostic. Now I have faith again. My own though, not any one elses...
Oh yeah, no one cares what I think.
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RE: Ex Theists
August 11, 2009 at 9:23 am
(This post was last modified: August 11, 2009 at 9:25 am by Overmars.)
I was a christian, eastern orthodox, until I was about 14 when I saw that religion is heavily flawed, it made no sense to me and I realized that I don't need to follow a narrow-minded, bigoted, superstitious death cult for the rest of my life. I don't think that there is a difference between atheists who were born in a secular family and people who renounced religion for atheism. If they are true, educated atheists they will cope with arguing for atheism regardless of their religious or secular upbringing.
Personally, it's not God I dislike, it's his fan club I can't stand.
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RE: Ex Theists
August 11, 2009 at 9:26 am
Catholic. I have a longtime goal of getting officially excommunicated.
But anyway, I think first generation atheists do have some advantage in debating. They can put their theist hat on, in a manner of speaking, and understand their reasoning better and hopefully work their arguments around it. It's not always true, but I think it can help. I've seen atheists who have argued a point and they don't seem to understand why their argument is flatly refused by a theist.
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RE: Ex Theists
August 11, 2009 at 9:28 am
(August 11, 2009 at 7:47 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: (August 11, 2009 at 7:33 am)Pippy Wrote: I became a devout atheist.
You became a "devout atheist" ... how the fuck did you do that then (clue: it's an oxymoron)?
Kyu
A devout isn't necessarily a religious person, people can be devoted to a bunch of things not just their beliefs.
Personally, it's not God I dislike, it's his fan club I can't stand.
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RE: Ex Theists
August 11, 2009 at 9:35 am
I agree with Overmars. I'm a devout cosplay nerd.