The logical extension of the original post...

(April 17, 2012 at 1:44 pm)NoMoreFaith Wrote: That God exists in the unobservable aspects of the Universe, hiding, because observation makes him cease to exist?

(April 17, 2012 at 1:56 pm)Napoleon Wrote:

(April 17, 2012 at 1:51 pm)Adjusted Sanity Wrote: Tearing garbage apart still makes it garbage. Christians just badly tape and glue it back together again. You can keep tearing it apart again and again, but we just end up with theists worshiping a fucked up lump of glue and tape.

Yeah it's pretty pointless arguing. I'm not going to respond to the guy, he's not the kind of person I'd expect to be into this philosobabble. He's pretty damn intelligent, but as usual religion finds a way to brainwash people.

We can only wait till people outgrow religion. And slip into an age of philosophy and atheism.

Of course we could just be waiting for the heat death of the universe, but I'm patient

(April 17, 2012 at 1:58 pm)NoMoreFaith Wrote: The logical extension of the original post...

That's funny. It was posted with that exact same picture which you linked.

Are you sure he wasn't trolling you?

(April 17, 2012 at 1:15 pm)Napoleon Wrote: Can someone tell me what this 'important message' is? I must of missed it.

The message is that today, theists are insecure enough in their beliefs that they feel the need to make up (and chain e-mail/post) stories that portray atheists as petty, mean-spirited people with flimsy arguments.
From the appeals it makes (popular opinion, strawman, appeal to authority via einstein, and ad-hom if you consider the characterizations of the debaters) this is propaganda to a t. And it's tailored for the (intellectually lazy) religious who don't want to put any real thought/effort into theodicity...

Does anyone remember the "professor and the chalk" story that went around the web a few years ago?

No, but please expand on this, T.

From: http://www.snopes.com/religion/chalk.asp

This is a true story of something that happened just a few years ago at USC. There was a professor of philosophy there who was a deeply committed atheist. His primary goal for one required class was to spend the entire semester attempting to prove that God couldn't exist. His students were always afraid to argue with him because of his impeccable logic. For twenty years, he had taught this class and no one had ever had the courage to go against him. Sure, some had argued in class at times, but no one had ever 'really gone against him' (you'll see what I mean later).

Nobody would go against him because he had a reputation. At the end of every semester, on the last day, he would say to his class of 300 students, "If there anyone here who still believes in Jesus, stand up!" In twenty years, no one had ever stood up. They knew what he was going to do next. He would say, "because anyone who does believe in God is a fool. If God existed, he could stop this piece of chalk from hitting the ground and breaking. Such a simple task to prove that he is God, and yet he can't do it." And every year, he would drop the chalk onto the tile floor of the classroom and it would shatter into a hundred pieces. The students could do nothing but stop and stare. Most of the students were convinced that God couldn't exist. Certainly, a number of Christians had slipped through, but for 20 years, they had been too afraid to stand up.

Well, a few years ago, there was a freshman who happened to get enrolled in the class. He was a Christian, and had heard the stories about this professor. He had to take the class because it was one of the required classes for his major and he was afraid. But for 3 months that semester, he prayed every morning that he would have the courage to stand up no matter what the professor said or what the class thought. Nothing they said or did could ever shatter his faith, he hoped.

Finally the day came. The professor said, "If there is anyone here who still believes in God, stand up!" The professor and the class of 300 people looked at him, shocked, as he stood up at the back of the classroom. The professor shouted, "You FOOL!! If God existed, he could keep this piece of chalk from breaking when it hit the ground!" He proceeded to drop the chalk, but as he did, it slipped out of his fingers, off his shirt cuff, onto the pleats of his pants, down his leg, and off his shoe. As it hit the ground, it simply rolled away, unbroken.

The professor's jaw dropped as he stared at the chalk. He looked up at the young man and then ran out of the lecture hall. The young man who had stood up proceeded to walk to the front of the room and share his faith in Jesus for the next half hour. 300 students stayed and listened as he told of God's love for them and of his power through Jesus.

Edit: Also, my "a few years" was apparently 16. This was on the internet back in 1996...

(April 17, 2012 at 2:14 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Does anyone remember the "professor and the chalk" story that went around the web a few years ago?

You mean this bit of crap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQWl7mE3y3E

a very poor test of 'gods' power thwarted by clumsiness.