I'll try to address the points in the link;

1) Like Tegh posted, there are 2 hebrew words for circle, one meaning circle one meaning sphere. In this case, the word meaning circle is used. Even if the word meaning sphere was used, it would still be wrong, as the actual shape of the Earth is an oblate spheroid. I'd expect a "close enough for the time" response for this point, but seeming as christians believe their book is handed down from god, who is all-knowing, they should be able to get it correct.

2) The Earth is not suspended.

3-7) All are observations that can me made, which is not hugely remarkable. All it means are that the authors had access to knowledge known at the time. If they had some quantum physics or relativity in there, then I'd be impressed.

8) Entropy is the quantitative measure of disorder of a system. Entropy has been confused with the Second Law of Thermodynamics, but this is not a great representation of it, and I doubt the author intended it to be anything but poetic observation.

9) I can't be bothered to read Leviticus 12-14 so I won't comment on this point.

hoppimike Wrote:and also http://www.reasons.org is interesting.

Wow, thanks for sharing this website. From the two articles I've read it seems like a very unbiased source of information. They purely focus on the evidence first and then come to conclusions. That's how I like it =)

If anyone's bored, here's an interesting article on the age of the Earth by using tree rings. Apparently they are extremely reliable and confirm that carbon isotopes have always decayed at a constant rate:

http://www.reasons.org/articles/multiple...ient-earth

oh... OH.

lol

I'm not sure what the point of looking for scientific accuracies in the bible is for unless you are trying to prove the bible true. If you do not believe the bible is true, then you don't believe it was divinely inspired, therefore any scientific accuracies would be merely coincidental.

When you throw out as many claims as the bible does, you are bound to get one right. So, what is important is the ratio of accuracies to inaccuracies, not that there are any accuracies at all.

(June 9, 2012 at 12:38 pm)Faith No More Wrote: I'm not sure what the point of looking for scientific accuracies in the bible is for unless you are trying to prove the bible true. If you do not believe the bible is true, then you don't believe it was divinely inspired, therefore any scientific accuracies would be merely coincidental.

When you throw out as many claims as the bible does, you are bound to get one right. So, what is important is the ratio of accuracies to inaccuracies, not that there are any accuracies at all.

I think it would be interesting to see if the bible got something right by chance. Coincidences are fun.

(June 9, 2012 at 12:38 pm)Faith No More Wrote: When you throw out as many claims as the bible does, you are bound to get one right. So, what is important is the ratio of accuracies to inaccuracies, not that there are any accuracies at all.

I agree, this is actually the point I made about the Qur'an recently when Muslims claim it got something right!

And... no, I don't believe there is a god, nor do I believe the Bible is legit. HOWEVER, I'm open to being wrong

Well, be careful that you're not so open minded that your brain falls out.

Oh my! They knew the world was shaped like a circle!!!
Oh wait..........its not a circle. -_-

From what I understand, the bible portrays the earth sort of like a snow globe.

(June 9, 2012 at 1:29 am)hoppimike Wrote: Not many I know, and it sounds like an oxymoron, but apparently there are some.

Apparently it refers to the Earth as a "circle" (Hebrew word for that), tells people to wash their hands (indicating an awareness of infection), and a few other things. Definitely good stuff to look into, there are quite a few youtube videos and articles about this online but I can try to find more if anyone wants!

So erm, thoughts?

Mike

Isaiah uses the Hebrew word for ball at one point in the book, which would have been much more suiting if he was referring to earth as a sphere (never mind the fact that it apparently didn't convince anyone at that time who believed Isaiah that the earth was spherical.) The word Isaiah uses is used one other time in the old testament (Proverbs 8:27) and refers to a flat disk.

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(June 9, 2012 at 8:12 am)Tobie Wrote: I'll try to address the points in the link;

1) Like Tegh posted, there are 2 hebrew words for circle, one meaning circle one meaning sphere. In this case, the word meaning circle is used. Even if the word meaning sphere was used, it would still be wrong, as the actual shape of the Earth is an oblate spheroid. I'd expect a "close enough for the time" response for this point, but seeming as christians believe their book is handed down from god, who is all-knowing, they should be able to get it correct.

Oh you beat me to it lol. Remember to note that Isaiah did use the word for ball as the word for ball at another place in Isaiah. So it's not as though the word wasn't familiar to him. And, as I said earlier in this post, the word he used was used at another place in the old testament as a flat circle.

This is what Hebrews believed with respect to cosmology and when you look at it and read how the bible describes the earth it fits quite well: