When I get precise, which I usually do, then you guys have to squirm to some new hole in the ground. You cannot argue against it, so you make cheap snipes from a safe distance. That's ok and understood.

(July 31, 2012 at 1:30 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: When I get precise, which I usually do, then you guys have to squirm to some new hole in the ground. You cannot argue against it, so you make cheap snipes from a safe distance. That's ok and understood.

Tell you what, how about we let people read back abit and see who exactly has crawled into a hole. K? :-)

You've been precise? Somewhere, anywhere? I keep hearing you tell this tale but I've never seen the deed.

It's never happened. Nor has fr0d0 blocking me, he'd never willingly miss out on engaging with me.

People can point to countless examples of you being vague and evasive, fr0d0. I can back this statement up. The accusations you level at the rest of us, you would not be able to back up if challenged.

Yep well that's never happenned in the past Eld. People have always retreated to silence when I've come up with the goods. Some people have short memories. You guys are just deliberately stupid.

(July 31, 2012 at 2:55 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Yep well that's never happenned in the past Eld. People have always retreated to silence when I've come up with the goods. Some people have short memories. You guys are just deliberately stupid.

Well thats bullshit, you blocked me when you couldn't cope in this very thread.
Infact you did it again recently.
Actually that should probably be claimed to have because you responded to my retort both times after having supposedly "blocked" me.
Its the equivalent of a four year old threatening to leave home everytime he gets sent to bed early without sweets adding "I mean it this time! :'("

Also, when have you *ever* come up with the goods? What? You've proven Gods existence before have you?
Oh no, we're the stupid ones for not realising faith is actually evidence in itself despite every dictionary in the world disagreeing with that assessment.
Grow up.

An ad hominem post. That's nice.

If I agree with you that there cannot be proof of God's existence, then how and why am I supposed to provide proof?

What goods, where are these goods? How do you know that there cannot be any proof? I think that's more than likely just an excuse you give yourself to ease the discomfort of not having any to begin with.

Like i know that there cannot be square circles. As with square circles, I feel no compulsion to go looking for them. do you?

Yeah, actually, it would be great to find out that the universe was "stranger than we can suppose" so-to-speak. Nevertheless, squared circles are not gods, or claims of gods, and however strongly you wish for this comparison to have any explanatory power over the subject of god it does not. Are you hoping to form an idea of a god, or referencing an actual god (not ala a personal name, but a god that exists somewhere beyond an idea)?

In any case, I'll call massive bullshit as this dive into psuedo philosophy will simply be another obfuscating song and dance, same as last time. The god proposal, and specifically what little of a proposal I've seen you offer here, doesn't warrant the respect that considering it philosophy would seem to confer (respect which you desperately crave for the idea, in that arena).

Squared circles do not exist, ergo god- denied. Look, if you want to claim that you're giving substance to this comment or your thoughts on the matter, stop telling people about circles when they ask you about god? That sounds fair..doesn't it? If you're hoping to establish that there could be no proof of god -by definition- ala squared circles, then you'll simply be reminded that you will have to establish that definition as accurate and authoritative in the first place (and personally, I will remind you that you then need to be certain that your god actually fits this description, which, if you believe in any kind of christ whatsoever, is not the case). So maybe start there?