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Attack or retreat?
#11
RE: Attack or retreat?
(October 15, 2009 at 10:31 am)Secularone Wrote: Friends don't let friends get hooked on drugs.
Friends don't let friends get hooked on religion.
Religion damages lives!

Secularone for president!Big Grin

I was brought up a "Christian" child (as are most of my friends). I can't agree more with Richard Dawkins that raising your child as a "Christian" (or Muslim, Buddist, etc) is wrong. They should be taught from a young age about the various religions out there, the argument for and against and have the freedom of choice to make up their own mind when they are older.

When, however, you were "brainwashed" as a child into Christianity it fucks up in a way your freedom of choice. If you were taught from an early age that it is wrong to question the Bible, Christianity and God and that you would go to hell if you do, a lot of people won't because they are scared. Therefore a lot of people (incl. my friends) won't ever question Christianity.

That's why I agree with Secularone but is it moral though? Like I've mentioned before, some people need something to believe in?
Spinoza Wrote:God is the Asylum of Ignorance
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#12
RE: Attack or retreat?
Quote:Like I've mentioned before, some people need something to believe in?

Like believing in themselves? Believing in their friends? Smile
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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#13
RE: Attack or retreat?
(October 15, 2009 at 2:30 pm)Saerules Wrote:
Quote:Like I've mentioned before, some people need something to believe in?

Like believing in themselves? Believing in their friends? Smile

Wouldn't that be great! Believing in yourself and friends rather than religionSmile
Spinoza Wrote:God is the Asylum of Ignorance
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#14
RE: Attack or retreat?
(October 15, 2009 at 2:23 pm)Craveman Wrote:
(October 15, 2009 at 10:31 am)Secularone Wrote: Friends don't let friends get hooked on drugs.
Friends don't let friends get hooked on religion.
Religion damages lives!

Secularone for president!Big Grin

I was brought up a "Christian" child (as are most of my friends). I can't agree more with Richard Dawkins that raising your child as a "Christian" (or Muslim, Buddist, etc) is wrong. They should be taught from a young age about the various religions out there, the argument for and against and have the freedom of choice to make up their own mind when they are older.

When, however, you were "brainwashed" as a child into Christianity it fucks up in a way your freedom of choice. If you were taught from an early age that it is wrong to question the Bible, Christianity and God and that you would go to hell if you do, a lot of people won't because they are scared. Therefore a lot of people (incl. my friends) won't ever question Christianity.

That's why I agree with Secularone but is it moral though? Like I've mentioned before, some people need something to believe in?

I agree to religion damages lives! Unfortunality I was brainwashed as a child. Sad
I am crawling out of my rough outter shell to see this world and all its beauty.
Freedom is the ability to march to the beat of a different drummer without fear of retribution. Secularone

Ignorance is bliss but understanding is wonderful. Atheist forums.org
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#15
RE: Attack or retreat?
(October 15, 2009 at 2:14 pm)Saerules Wrote:
(October 15, 2009 at 2:10 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Fanatics damage lives: *holds up mirror to Secularone*

Don't we look wonderful today? Smile

Stop being an idiot Sae
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#16
RE: Attack or retreat?
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(October 15, 2009 at 5:15 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:
(October 15, 2009 at 2:14 pm)Saerules Wrote:
(October 15, 2009 at 2:10 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Fanatics damage lives: *holds up mirror to Secularone*

Don't we look wonderful today? Smile

Stop being an idiot Sae

I'd have to start if I were to stop. Wink I defend others against insults when I feel they don't deserve them. Smile I usually dispense an insult with a joke... but whether that makes me an idiot... or not? Thinking I personally think it just makes me jovial Smile
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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#17
RE: Attack or retreat?
To be jovial you'd have to be remotely funny - what's funny about a completely nonsensical commentHuh

Fair enough if you could make a joke about it - I'd enjoy that too - but you seem to be making a constant stream of these seemingly idiotic retorts.
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#18
RE: Attack or retreat?
Not as apple dictionary defines it Smile
dictionary Wrote:jovial |ˈjōvēəl|
adjective
cheerful and friendly : she was in a jovial mood.
Unless I have to be funny to be cheerful? Smile Maybe it will make more sense if you read it without the quote tags?

Quote:fr0d0: Fanatics damage lives: *holds up mirror to Secularone*
Saerules: Don't we look wonderful today? Smile
fr0d0: Stop being an idiot, Sae.
Saerules: I'd have to start if I were to stop Wink

Fair enough that I have gotten enough insults in my life to instantly respond cheerfully in the face of them? Smile What is any more idiotic about my retorts than other's insults?
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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#19
RE: Attack or retreat?
Isn't whether someone is an idiot or not, a subjective matter? So not something to seriously be argued about perhaps? Smile

EvF
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#20
RE: Attack or retreat?
EvF,

Welcome to the atheistforums! There was a new law writ into our constitution that states something like, "All things are worth arguing about! Because A=A you can argue even purely subjective issues by building logic upon itself unto infinity and beyond!" Yeah, part "Toy Story", part objectivism, and all bullshit! I keep a copy in my head so after I am dead you can extract it along with my soul! lol Tongue Prepare the bed with a scale built in and you can further Dr. MacDougall's work! /sarcasm

Rhizo

PS No, I don't believe I have a soul I AM just taking a piss!
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