(December 31, 2012 at 3:36 pm)pocaracas Wrote: I see the spell checker wasn't on santa's list...

(December 30, 2012 at 9:37 pm)Drich Wrote: I could not responsiably do both.

(December 31, 2012 at 3:01 pm)Drich Wrote: a waist of time.

ok, this second one wouldn't be picked up by the spell checker...

actually i have been posting with my ipad today. It does have auto correct.

(December 31, 2012 at 12:36 am)Aractus Wrote: Welcome back Drich!

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(December 30, 2012 at 11:55 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: In your opinion, does the Bible condemn body building? I know Paul implies that it's basically a waste of time, but I'm wondering if a case can be made to say it's 100% bad. I'm asking because my gymming buddy is a good friend of mine who is a hardcore believer...

• 1 Timothy 4:6-10:
  If you put these things before the brothers, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, being trained in the words of the faith and of the good doctrine that you have followed. Have nothing to do with irreverent, silly myths. Rather train yourself for godliness; for while bodily training is of some value, godliness is of value in every way, as it holds promise for the present life and also for the life to come. The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance. For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Saviour of all people, especially of those who believe.

Drich can come up with his own answer - here's my answer. No the Bible doesn't say it's bad. Anything that has "some value" isn't bad.

What if not believing in your god has some value?

(December 31, 2012 at 3:01 pm)Drich Wrote: Maybe it is because you all have been taught to think the same way about Christians and don't even realize it.. Baa

Taught by whom?

And welcome back, glad you didn't get apocalypsed.

Welcome back, Drich. I hope you enjoyed your holidays and your break from this madness, even though I harbor suspicions that you may have taken a large chunk of that madness with you when you left.

Drich Wrote:Anything not done for the glory of God can be identified as a waist of time. So I guess it depends on the reason why your friend works out. Is it to become more appealing to his sexual demo, or has he found some way to serve God through his effort? (Kinda like Samson in a non philistine killing way.) it all becomes a matter of the heart.

So... Biblical Christianity has nothing Biblical to say about this? It's just a matter of gut feeling and motives?

(December 30, 2012 at 6:41 pm)Drich Wrote: Well as I have missed this past "myan rapture," it seems my task here remains. So if any of you has any questions or seeks clarity concerning Biblical Christianity then please feel free to post.

You have no task here, and what authority do you have to give clarity on christianity?

You strike me as having a very high opinion of yourself.

(December 31, 2012 at 3:01 pm)Drich Wrote:

(December 30, 2012 at 9:58 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Welcome back, old friend. You know, I realise you intended your thread title to suggest a kind of childlike sing-song pronunciation, and this is really bad of me, but I read it more as a sheep sound. I can't think why

Maybe it is because you all have been taught to think the same way about Christians and don't even realize it.. Baa

What do you mean, "you all"? There's only one of me, last time I checked. If there's some other Stimbos running about out there, I hope they're making a damn sight better go of it than me.

My point, in case anyone missed it, is that you just ascribed to me the same hive-mentality stereotype behaviour you gleaned from my words about you - and didn't even realise it.

(January 1, 2013 at 2:53 am)FallentoReason Wrote:

Drich Wrote:Anything not done for the glory of God can be identified as a waist of time. So I guess it depends on the reason why your friend works out. Is it to become more appealing to his sexual demo, or has he found some way to serve God through his effort? (Kinda like Samson in a non philistine killing way.) it all becomes a matter of the heart.

So... Biblical Christianity has nothing Biblical to say about this? It's just a matter of gut feeling and motives?

no it does. You just have to approach it from the right angle. Biblical Christianity is not a list of rules one must follow. It is freedom from said rules to worship god with all of one's being. (Heart, Mind Spirit and STRENGTH)

If God has blessed you with the genetics and inclination to work out to the point you would consider yourself to be a body builder, and if you can somehow focous the 'attention' you get from others then body building is your lot or talent that you must double for the glory of God. If however one uses body building as a means of self glory then it is a sin like anyother.

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(January 1, 2013 at 7:17 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: You have no task here, and what authority do you have to give clarity on christianity?

Mat 28:16-20

Quote:You strike me as having a very high opinion of yourself.

I have a very high opinion of the one who comissioned me, therefore when i am doing as tasked, this 'opinion' carries over into my work.

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(January 1, 2013 at 12:32 pm)Stimbo Wrote:

(December 31, 2012 at 3:01 pm)Drich Wrote: Maybe it is because you all have been taught to think the same way about Christians and don't even realize it.. Baa

What do you mean, "you all"? There's only one of me, last time I checked. If there's some other Stimbos running about out there, I hope they're making a damn sight better go of it than me.

My point, in case anyone missed it, is that you just ascribed to me the same hive-mentality stereotype behaviour you gleaned from my words about you - and didn't even realise it.

i just said that to get your goat!

I know how much you like the term you all or you people. (as about as much as i like when you people call us sheep)

Let me get this straight. You don't have to worship god, you GET to worship god? Are you sure you don't have to get to worship god? Or is that too just one more opportunity to be grateful for?

Drich Wrote:no it does. You just have to approach it from the right angle. Biblical Christianity is not a list of rules one must follow. It is freedom from said rules to worship god with all of one's being. (Heart, Mind Spirit and STRENGTH)

If God has blessed you with the genetics and inclination to work out to the point you would consider yourself to be a body builder, and if you can somehow focous the 'attention' you get from others then body building is your lot or talent that you must double for the glory of God. If however one uses body building as a means of self glory then it is a sin like anyother.

Cool. Thanks for that.