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**Meatball** · November 10, 2009 at 4:05 pm

I think saying Hitler and religion don't have much in common is false.

You can find countless quotes where Hitler spoke about his faith and doing God's work and whatnot. Hitler used political alliances with various churches to gain popularity and credibility.

Whether Hitler's actions were motivated by Christianity, or whether it was simply a political facade is a subject of great debate.

Saying the two subjects don't have much in common, however, doesn't hold water.

Tails Turrosaki · November 10, 2009 at 4:08 pm

Rather, Hitler shouldn't be used as an "excuse" that it is a negative effect from Atheism/Christianity, like saying how laws against homosexuality is the fault of Christianity.

**Meatball** · (This post was last modified: November 10, 2009 at 4:50 pm by Meatball.)

I totally agree with you about Hitler not being a product of religious ideology, but I can't say it's so cut and dry for your second example.

A lot of anti-homosexuality laws are directly a result of Christian morals. Look at the recent ballot initiatives in California and Maine.

Edit: Ah, I misunderstood.

Violet · November 10, 2009 at 4:47 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposition_8 is bloody fucking ridiculous.

Tails Turrosaki · (This post was last modified: November 10, 2009 at 4:49 pm by Tails Turrosaki.)

(November 10, 2009 at 4:45 pm)Meatball Wrote: I totally agree with you about Hitler not being a product of religious ideology, but I can't say it's so cut and dry for your second example.

A lot of anti-homosexuality laws are directly a result of Christian morals. Look at the recent ballot initiatives in California and Maine.

No, anti-homosexuality laws ARE directly from Christians. That's what I was saying... Maybe I should've added a "not" in there to make it more clear. Tongue

(November 10, 2009 at 4:47 pm)Saerules Wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposition_8 is bloody fucking ridiculous.

Those fucktards need to suck a dick/lick a vagina (depending on their gender). T^T

~~fr0d0~~ · November 10, 2009 at 5:46 pm

(November 10, 2009 at 4:48 pm)Tails Turrosaki Wrote: No, anti-homosexuality laws ARE directly from Christians.

But not from Christianity

Tails Turrosaki · November 10, 2009 at 5:56 pm

... *points to the Bible where it says homosexuality is not allowed in the eyes of God* Your post is contradicting...

~~fr0d0~~ · November 10, 2009 at 6:14 pm

& you'd be wrong tails. We just discussed it here recently.

Violet · (This post was last modified: November 10, 2009 at 6:15 pm by Violet.)

Depends on how you interpret those passages Smile

There, now you don't have to say it, fr0d0 Tongue

Blargh fr0d0, you beat me to it Tongue

~~fr0d0~~ · November 10, 2009 at 6:26 pm

That is it (de bible) can't be shown to be either way. Which was really my point.

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