(April 30, 2013 at 2:12 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Hell is not funny
I don't get pissed out, I feel sad for you
It is exactly like the relation between Doctors and patients
Doctors don't hate patients, they hat diseases affecting patients, and they wish to cure them.


Atheism is a disease, (and it will kill you), but you don't realize

Well I was wrong I mean you have to be joking right my lover?

(April 30, 2013 at 12:47 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(April 30, 2013 at 2:12 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Hell is not funny
I don't get pissed out, I feel sad for you
It is exactly like the relation between Doctors and patients
Doctors don't hate patients, they hat diseases affecting patients, and they wish to cure them.


Atheism is a disease, (and it will kill you), but you don't realize

Well I was wrong I mean you have to be joking right my lover?

A psychological disease or a mental disorder is often not recognized by the patient

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(April 30, 2013 at 9:20 am)Love Wrote: Hell does not exist. Also, I think it is very harsh of you to state "you are going to be tortured forever (and you deserve it)" just because somebody disagrees with you. Threatening people with "hell" is just going to be ridiculed, especially on a forum promoting atheism.

I'm just pointing the (Possible) consequences of ignoring religion, for an Atheist he should investigate religions thoroughly because he is risking everything (for nothing)

Quote: God is not a Christian, a Muslim, a Buddhist or a Jew.

Those religions came from God, not God is following them.

Quote:May I ask how long you have been a Muslim?

I was born as Muslim, but I don't take things for granted, my wife and her family are all converted from Christianity to Islam.

How are you going to prove now that god can never be an object or human?

How are you going to prove that god cannot reflect light but can manipulate sound, cause floods and impregnate women?

Do you accept yet that mental images are not always memories?

Do you accept that not all images are reflections of light?

Also are you going to accept that there is no premise about god which is generally accepted to be correct?

A psychological disorder seems to be a necessary ingredient for one to latch onto bloodsoaked fairy tale as if it was real and devote one's life to a false god which exhibits obvious psychopathic and megalomanic behavior.

Islam is a threat to all mqankind, by design. No religion serves as a worse example of everything wrong with religion and blind, slavish faith.

(May 1, 2013 at 3:42 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:

(April 30, 2013 at 9:20 am)Love Wrote: Hell does not exist. Also, I think it is very harsh of you to state "you are going to be tortured forever (and you deserve it)" just because somebody disagrees with you. Threatening people with "hell" is just going to be ridiculed, especially on a forum promoting atheism.

I'm just pointing the (Possible) consequences of ignoring religion, for an Atheist he should investigate religions thoroughly because he is risking everything (for nothing)

Oh, Pascal's Wager now, is it? So tell me, which religion? Aren't you at all concerned about the possible consequences of not following christianity? Or of not worshipping the ancient Norse gods? I mean, we're all fucked whether you worship Ctulhu or not, but aren't you worried that he won't kill you quickly?

How much time have you honestly spent being concerned about any other version of hell but the one you subscribe to? Because if it's none, you can hardly fault us atheists for doing the same, especially since all you've given us here are assertions that your god exists, and nothing close to actual evidence.

Quote:Those religions came from God, not God is following them.

You're right, god is an atheist. Why aren't you?

Quote:I was born as Muslim, but I don't take things for granted, my wife and her family are all converted from Christianity to Islam.

You were born a baby. You had to be taught the religious stuff later.

(May 1, 2013 at 4:34 am)Esquilax Wrote: Oh, Pascal's Wager now, is it? So tell me, which religion? Aren't you at all concerned about the possible consequences of not following christianity?

Read my thread about redefining Pascal Wager
Which religion? Anything is better than nothing
However a religion that can be proved is much better than any other

Quote:You were born a baby. You had to be taught the religious stuff later.

All people are born as Muslims, it is only when they grow up and embrace another religion they change.

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(May 1, 2013 at 4:06 am)paulpablo Wrote: How are you going to prove now that god can never be an object or human?

You need to understand and accept the concept behind my proof(s)
It is very simple (Contradictions cannot exist)
If you take any statement or proposition to its roots (defining terms) and find a disjoint, then that proposition is impossible (even for God)

Quote:Do you accept yet that mental images are not always memories?

Can you give an example?
It is either a full image from memory or constructed parts (from memory as well)

Quote:Do you accept that not all images are reflections of light?

Proof please!

Quote:Also are you going to accept that there is no premise about god which is generally accepted to be correct?

This is a big leap, that is why we need a proof!
We start from something accepted (by people who are addressed by this proof) then go step by step to the conclusion

(May 1, 2013 at 4:45 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:

(May 1, 2013 at 4:34 am)Esquilax Wrote: Oh, Pascal's Wager now, is it? So tell me, which religion? Aren't you at all concerned about the possible consequences of not following christianity?

Read my thread about redefining Pascal Wager
Which religion? Anything is better than nothing

Not according to certain gods. Isn't the traditional penalty for apostasy death, for Muslims? Not to mention that not worshiping other gods is a commandment for the christians.

See, you say things, but the words of most holy books kind of prove you wrong...

Quote:However a religion that can be proved is much better than any other

Shit, you'd better get on that then.

Quote:All people are born as Muslims, it is only when they grow up and embrace another religion they change.

That one's going in the hall of shame. I'll even forgive you for that egregious example of telling me what I believe, because that's fucking funny.

(May 1, 2013 at 4:45 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:

(May 1, 2013 at 4:34 am)Esquilax Wrote: Oh, Pascal's Wager now, is it? So tell me, which religion? Aren't you at all concerned about the possible consequences of not following christianity?

Read my thread about redefining Pascal Wager
Which religion? Anything is better than nothing
However a religion that can be proved is much better than any other

Quote:You were born a baby. You had to be taught the religious stuff later.

All people are born as Muslims, it is only when they grow up and embrace another religion they change.

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(May 1, 2013 at 4:06 am)paulpablo Wrote: How are you going to prove now that god can never be an object or human?

You need to understand and accept the concept behind my proof(s)
It is very simple (Contradictions cannot exist)
If you take any statement or proposition to its roots (defining terms) and find a disjoint, then that proposition is impossible (even for God)

Quote:Do you accept yet that mental images are not always memories?

Can you give an example?
It is either a full image from memory or constructed parts (from memory as well)

Quote:Do you accept that not all images are reflections of light?

Proof please!

Quote:Also are you going to accept that there is no premise about god which is generally accepted to be correct?

This is a big leap, that is why we need a proof!
We start from something accepted (by people who are addressed by this proof) then go step by step to the conclusion

1 how can you prove what is impossible or possible for god?

2 I already told you I had a mental image an animal wearing victorian clothes and talking to me, this never happened and is not a memory.
When I was a virgin I had several sexual mental images of me having sex, yet I still remained a virgin because these things were not memories.

3 My proof as I have already told you that not all images are reflected light is that people can all be in the same room and see different images, hallucinations exist.

4 there is no concept about god which is generally accepted, what do you mean people who are addressed by this proof?

STILL waiting for this proof.....





just sayin'

(May 1, 2013 at 3:42 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: A psychological disease or a mental disorder is often not recognized by the patient

My Irony meter just exploded.

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(May 1, 2013 at 4:45 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: All people are born as Muslims, it is only when they grow up and embrace another religion they change.

You are wrong, so very very wrong.

I don't think even Statler has been wronger and his delusion is almost off the scale.

How many mosques were there in the amazon basin before the conquests.

Hell, how many muslims were there before the 14th century.