(May 6, 2013 at 9:04 am)paulpablo Wrote: What is disjoint? What is the premises that I would have to agree with in order for you to prove to me gods existence?

That gods exist silly.

(May 6, 2013 at 5:20 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: I predict a "no-one has seen a duck turn into a cat" argument coming.

I doubt it will be that nuanced if I'm honest.

(May 6, 2013 at 9:04 am)paulpablo Wrote: What is disjoint? What is the premises that I would have to agree with in order for you to prove to me gods existence?

it is very simple
Disjoint means: mutually exclusive attributes cannot exist

for example: It is impossible to have a square with non-equal sides
because we/you defined and accepted the definition of "Square" to be with equal sides
So if any statement leads to a disjoint then it is describing something impossible to exist (i.e. it is describing NOTHING)

The proof is tricky because it is disproving No god instead of Proving God directly

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(May 6, 2013 at 6:44 am)NoraBrimstone Wrote: I think it much more likely that you don't actually know what evolution is, and instead of taking 10 minutes to look it up and learn the absolute basics of what it is, you're going to pretend it doesn't happen.

Islam doesn't confirm or deny evolution (Except for humans)

What I can proof is to prove that Evolution (if it happened) must be intelligent

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(May 6, 2013 at 2:34 am)Ryantology Wrote: Demonstrating once more that your username is oxymoronic? Though, I do admit, the things you say do strongly suggest that some humans really haven't evolved out of their proto-simian stage.

This cannot be proven

Islam does confirm the existence of human-like creatures before Adam
I cannot prove that Adam/humans didn't evolve from other species

It can be proven only by revelation as I mentioned about Quran verses.

Quote:The proof is tricky because it is disproving No god instead of Proving God directly

It is proving nothing because as I said no one does agree about the attributes of god or agree anything about god, so you're basically saying you have proof that god cannot become a man or any other creature if I agree to the terms of god being something that cannot become a man or other creature.

You have still avoided telling me the actual premises I would have to agree to for your proof to work I'm just assuming this is part of the proof, you haven't actually said anything of the premises which you are putting forth that I would have to agree to.

Please provide this intelligent evolution, which you speak of!

Empty Space has many attributes, if you looked at the Quantum Fluctuation, you will give the properties.

Also, time does not exist before the big bang, which mean a god cannot exist without time. Also, stated my logic disproves this is not a valid answer.
Read some Steven Hawking please.

(May 7, 2013 at 7:57 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:

(May 6, 2013 at 6:44 am)NoraBrimstone Wrote: I think it much more likely that you don't actually know what evolution is, and instead of taking 10 minutes to look it up and learn the absolute basics of what it is, you're going to pretend it doesn't happen.

Islam doesn't confirm or deny evolution (Except for humans)

What I can proof is to prove that Evolution (if it happened) must be intelligent

Well, I've never personally met a creationist Muslim. They all look down on creationists and Christian loonies. I'm going to have fun telling them about you.

You can proof to prove that Evolution must be intelligent? Go on....

Ummm Nora, do we tell him about the giraffe's laryngeal nerve yet?

(May 7, 2013 at 10:34 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:

Ummm Nora, do we tell him about the giraffe's laryngeal nerve yet?

No yet. He's not ready for that.

(May 7, 2013 at 7:57 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: What I can proof is to prove that Evolution (if it happened) must be intelligent

Crazy thought: how about instead of just claiming you can proof something and then making us wait- presumably while you scrabble for an actual answer to the claim you've made- a few posts before you finally get around to it, why not just proof the damn thing in the same post that you claim to have proof.

Wouldn't that save so much time?

(May 8, 2013 at 12:33 am)Esquilax Wrote: Wouldn't that save so much time?

It would, but the words evidence and proof do not mean what religious people think those words mean.