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Nothingness
RE: Nothingness
(May 23, 2013 at 8:50 pm)little_monkey Wrote: Too bad you're such a fucked up twit.

Take care and good luck, you'll need it.

If you only tuck tail and run when adversity appears... when will you stop running?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujQzI5PEmmc

You don't need luck when you've got Grape Nuts™ Smile

(May 23, 2013 at 9:07 pm)whateverist Wrote: But what about nothing? For nothing to be nothing it can't very well be a thing that exists. Hard to be nothing and something at the same time you know. If you're truly pro-nothing you must admit it does not exist.

Nothing exists... think about it: what's lies beyond everything? You probably got the same answer I got. Things do not necessarily have to be more than nothing... if nothing is everything it is still the only thing in all of everything. It's something, and nothing, at once Smile

How could nothing not exist? You're not making any sense Big Grin

(May 23, 2013 at 9:57 pm)smax Wrote: I see Violet is hard at it again making new friends!

I only make friends with cool people. If any show up: please don't hesitate to tell me Smile Thank you.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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RE: Nothingness
(May 23, 2013 at 2:48 pm)little_monkey Wrote: Big Grin
I can perceive that smiling face just above this sentence, but it is a configuration of pixels, that is what is called the form. The content is what that picture is about, and that is not real, unless you're insane or smoking pot.
If it wasn't for some real relationship between the sign and the signified then it couldn't have meaning and language would be impossible.
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RE: Nothingness
(May 23, 2013 at 10:28 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote:
(May 23, 2013 at 2:49 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: there is only <all there is> without such beings. And there is still <all there is> with such beings.

I can appreciate a lot of what you are saying. However, to me, this statement stuck out as a description of a logical absolute, that is to say, It appears as though (I don't doubt that you'll correct me if I've put words in your mouth...) that you're referring to something existing apart from subjective consciousness, and not contingent upon any other thing's existance and for that matter, a observer of any kind. Is this a fair assessment of your statement?

Yes, it is Smile It is, though... also a position of faith on my part. I believe that there's a universe that has existed long before I came along, will continue to exist long after I leave, and which finds me largely irrelevant... I would never try to prove it though. For all my recognition that we are subjective beings who see at best a slice of this world we are in: I'm really quite materialistic, and a lover of science Big Grin

I would say that Perceivers add new truths to the otherwise blank canvas of everything... that is to say: every view had by every perceiver is valid and real and true, but each is only a part of the whole, and that without all of them perceived at once from all angles, perspectives, distances: we cannot know what the 'reality' of all of it is. Smile

Welcome to the forums, Texas Sailor Tiger
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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RE: Nothingness
(May 23, 2013 at 10:59 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: I only make friends with cool people. If any show up: please don't hesitate to tell me Smile Thank you.

Believe me, if any disney characters join, I'll be sure to let you, and only you, know right away.
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RE: Nothingness
(May 23, 2013 at 11:47 pm)smax Wrote: Believe me, if any disney characters join, I'll be sure to let you, and only you, know right away.

Disney? Disney characters are only rarely cool, like Buzz Lightyear: he's one cool toy. Try Dreamworks.

Also, I'm not the jealous sort, nor do I belong to the wandering tribes of possessiveness. Share the newcomer with everyone, as a proper host would Smile
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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RE: Nothingness
(May 23, 2013 at 10:59 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote:
(May 23, 2013 at 9:07 pm)whateverist Wrote: But what about nothing? For nothing to be nothing it can't very well be a thing that exists. Hard to be nothing and something at the same time you know. If you're truly pro-nothing you must admit it does not exist.

Nothing exists... think about it: what's lies beyond everything? You probably got the same answer I got. Things do not necessarily have to be more than nothing... if nothing is everything it is still the only thing in all of everything. It's something, and nothing, at once Smile

How could nothing not exist? You're not making any sense Big Grin

Oh all right, I admit it. I was fucking with you but I didn't mean nothing by it. Guess I was just making something out of nothing. Somebody stop me.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04KQydlJ-qc

I'm not actually sure how this is relevant, but I'm eating a loaf of bread bigger than both of my fists together. I'm a little put out, though, because I had to strip my shirt off my body, wave it around in the air, and sing the hitch to Rawhide thrice before I could put it back on.

The card said so. Weird how reality is so much more bizarre than fiction.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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RE: Nothingness
(May 24, 2013 at 12:51 am)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04KQydlJ-qc

I'm not actually sure how this is relevant, but I'm eating a loaf of bread bigger than both of my fists together. I'm a little put out, though, because I had to strip my shirt off my body, wave it around in the air, and sing the hitch to Rawhide thrice before I could put it back on.

The card said so. Weird how reality is so much more bizarre than fiction.

I do like that tune. "Put me in coach, I'm ready to play .. something something .. brown eyed girl .." mmm donuts!
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RE: Nothingness
Brown eyed handsom man, I think you mean. But hey, I don't blame you: they all look like sexy women when you're drunk.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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RE: Nothingness
(May 23, 2013 at 10:59 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote:
(May 23, 2013 at 8:50 pm)little_monkey Wrote: Too bad you're such a fucked up twit.

Take care and good luck, you'll need it.

If you only tuck tail and run when adversity appears... when will you stop running?

You're either insane or pretending to be insane. It's futile to carry a conversation with someone who is totally irrational. If one day you do stand in front of an incoming train, I'll make sure that on your tombstone, it is written:

EVERYTHING EXISTS

RIP


I'm even willing to pay for the cost.

Take care sweetie, but remember that perception is not a myth but vital to your survival. Don't do anything foolish.
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