(July 31, 2013 at 6:54 am)iAisha Wrote: why peculiar way ?

i am clear

i am 23 years from arab country

So... one page later of a lot of people saying you have a strange way of constructing sentences and making sense, I guess you've already got it.

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(July 31, 2013 at 7:40 am)iAisha Wrote: i speak in arabic
english is not my language , thanks for ur patient

Arab country... hmmm I see.... this is how arabs write, but in arabic and right to left, right?

(July 31, 2013 at 7:40 am)iAisha Wrote: avoid confusion , what i am trying to convey is 'there is a god who controls this world'

sure , otherwise this world will be mess and meaningless

You see?... there are a few tiny words in english and other european languages that make all the difference.
Your sentence above would be more fluid and readable if you wrote something like:
"To avoid confusion, what I am trying to convey is 'there is a god who controls the world'. I'm sure of this because otherwise this world would be a mess and meaningless."

The last part still doesn't follow, but at least it's now a proper sentence.
You should hear russians speaking... they also miss a lot of these tiny important words.
English speakers also make their blunders, having a world of difficulty in grasping the nouns and pronouns in latin-languages, because they have male, female, singular and plural variants.

Now that the internet grammar police job is out of the way... let's address your claim.

Quote:'there is a god who controls this world', otherwise this world will be mess and meaningless

Being from an arab country, you must be particularly aware of all the war and conflict that is plaguing the arab countries, in general, are you not?
Where is this god you talk about in these messy and meaningless conflicts?

Where is this god you talk about in the tsunami that hit Japan in 2011, the tsunami that hit the Indian ocean in 2004? in the hurricane that hit New Orleans in 2005? etc etc etc etc etc etc

Where is this god when 2 million children die every year due to malaria, not to mention thousands of others who die due to other illnesses which we could cure and eradicate, if it weren't for all the wars and conflicts in the war-torn regions of the world.

Where was your god when I was created atheist? When I was created without the ability to accept other people's claims about any god?

Where??

(July 28, 2013 at 6:29 am)iAisha Wrote: hi and hope all are fine

for those who dont believe in god i have a question
which type of evidences do you need to prove the existence of god

what i know it is not necessary to have evidence to prove existence of things

example 1:
suppose in the real world , i can see red color and they are many things have this color e.g blood
in contract the blind cant feel this color, cant see it

so if the blind people say give me an evidence to prove the existence of red color

what shall i say , do i have to make him touch the blood

if he touch it , is it enough ?

no

so do we believe the blind if he say i dont believe in red color

of course no.

believe in god is something out of our control

because a human is restricted in time and space

believe in god is like when a blind asks you to prove the existence of colors

I like the example of convincing a blind person that sighted people can see colors. There are reasons that people blind from birth believe sighted people have a sense that they don't: it's easily demonstrated. If they were skeptical about the color thing, various experiments could be attempted. For example, they could take a marker with 'green' written on it in braille, and draw a circle on the card. Then they could go to any sighted person and get a consistent reply that the card has a green circle on it. The blind person may not understand color, but they will have enough evidence to conclude that when sighted people refer to color, it's a real thing that they can perceive that the blind person can't.

A similar experiment can be conducted by atheists with religious people to see if they can perceive something we can't. We can ask a bunch of different religious people to describe God and see if their descriptions match up.

We've done this experiment. The descriptions don't match up. One's description of God seems to depend largely on things like what one's parents believe and what region of the world you were raised in.

(July 31, 2013 at 5:49 am)iAisha Wrote: we need to respect each other when we ask about god ......... ok?

You can certainly ask for it (and good thing you posted in the Introductions Forum, since the 'no picking on the new members rule apply here), but in order to have it, you must earn it. Saying that you have a special imaginary friend is not a good start..

Quote:my god has a wise mind

In what way? Gods seem exceedingly silly to me on all fronts.

Quote:if u need everything a typical , perfect
believe me , the life will not have a meaning

Could you please rephrase that, it's quite incoherent?

Quote:god make differences so that we can learn from each other

That would be culture, environment, upbringing and genes, not gods.

Quote:why peculiar way ?

Unfinished sentences, bad spelling, missing words, to many spaces between sentences and shoddy grammar.

Quote:i speak in arabic
english is not my language

That's no excuse (and no, English isn't my first language either).

Quote:avoid confusion , what i am trying to convey is 'there is a god who controls this world'

That's only your notion, unless you can provide proof.

Quote:otherwise this world will be mess and meaningless

Yeah, life is.

(July 28, 2013 at 6:29 am)iAisha Wrote: hi and hope all are fine

for those who dont believe in god i have a question
which type of evidences do you need to prove the existence of god

what i know it is not necessary to have evidence to prove existence of things

example 1:
suppose in the real world , i can see red color and they are many things have this color e.g blood
in contract the blind cant feel this color, cant see it

so if the blind people say give me an evidence to prove the existence of red color

what shall i say , do i have to make him touch the blood

if he touch it , is it enough ?

no

so do we believe the blind if he say i dont believe in red color

of course no.

believe in god is something out of our control

because a human is restricted in time and space

believe in god is like when a blind asks you to prove the existence of colors

Why do you believe in a god who wants people beheaded and thinks of women as infirior to men?

(July 31, 2013 at 5:49 am)iAisha Wrote: we need to respect each other when we ask about god ......... ok?
my god has a wise mind

if u need everything a typical , perfect
believe me , the life will not have a meaning

think , if all people has same characteristic , attitudes ,,,,,,,,,,,
and there is no such difference

how the life will be ??!

benefit each other
accept good things and avoid bad
be patient when bad hurts u

and so on from life lessons

in this world you need to look and bright aspects of people not their limitations

if i wrote wrongly or miss words or what ever

it does not matter , i am still learning writing and reading in english

u know well english and u know how to say bad words to people

at least i did not bad words because i know words indicate the characteristic of the writter

(July 31, 2013 at 2:56 pm)iAisha Wrote: in this world you need to look and bright aspects of people not their limitations

if i wrote wrongly or miss words or what ever

it does not matter , i am still learning writing and reading in english

u know well english and u know how to say bad words to people

at least i did not bad words because i know words indicate the characteristic of the writter

It matters if you wish to make yourself understood.

(July 31, 2013 at 2:56 pm)iAisha Wrote: in this world you need to look and bright aspects of people not their limitations

if i wrote wrongly or miss words or what ever

it does not matter , i am still learning writing and reading in english

u know well english and u know how to say bad words to people

at least i did not bad words because i know words indicate the characteristic of the writter

Are you trying to make somekind of point?

Why do theists always feel compelled to play the "I'm better than you because I don't use bad words" card?

(July 31, 2013 at 3:13 pm)apophenia Wrote:


Why do theists always feel compelled to play the "I'm better than you because I don't use bad words" card?

Because they like to see things in black and white? I actually think 'bad' words are quite good!

SATAN!