You still have a skewed perspective. May I ask what country you are from?

(September 9, 2013 at 9:34 am)Psykhronic Wrote: You still have a skewed perspective. May I ask what country you are from?

My mother is american and my dad is spanish, and I'm in England.

Wow. Yeah... I'm done being insulted. OP, if your "condition" is ever cured, let me know. Until then, I have no desire to converse with someone who willfully thinks I'm a piece of shit. Fuck off.

(September 9, 2013 at 11:37 am)rexbeccarox Wrote: Wow. Yeah... I'm done being insulted. OP, if your "condition" is ever cured, let me know. Until then, I have no desire to converse with someone who willfully thinks I'm a piece of shit. Fuck off.

I would like to add that here is an example of a woman being upfront - one of the things you appreciate about men.

(September 9, 2013 at 9:31 am)Kereli Wrote: I'm open to that, and I know I have a problem. But it's not as though I'm making it up. Yes ok it's my experience, but my experience is very real, just like yours. I don't worship men but at the same time I see women for what they are, at least in my country, and it's ugly. If there were many examples in my experience of women who were different, I'd notice them simply because they would be a stark contrast to the norm, but it's so rare. Everyone's experience is different, I know that, but I can only make judgments based on my own. That's all any of us can really do. Even though I had a bad upbringing, and a bad mother who is a terrible role model, I like to think I'm not completely crazy, I like to think that I do make reasonably good observations. It's not like I don't have any good judgment at all, after all my husband is a great guy.

It's clear that there is disconnect between your observations and reality. If your take on women didn't make that obvious enough, your evaluation of men made that entirely clear. How was your relationship with your father? Would I be going out on a limb to say that it was much better than the one with your mother? Something has caused you to interpret women in an overtly negative manner and men in an overtly positive manner, because your observations do not match up with reality.

(September 9, 2013 at 8:23 am)Kereli Wrote: Any dislike that I have for women is based on experience, particularly with my own mother. Like I say she's a terrible role model and a very damaging influence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qahT62n8tcA

You seem to be male version of feminazi, I mean feminist.

I'll assume this is a psychological thing. Wouldn't be unheard of for someone to have experiences with a group or groups that leads them to become hostile towards the others of such groups without warrant. May not be a disorder or anything but having a phobia or fear or hatred of others with certain basis is certainly a thing that can and does happen.

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(September 9, 2013 at 5:39 am)Kereli Wrote: Let me go into some detail as to why I don't like women. I'm just going to be blunt. They gossip, they don't think for themselves (always going with the concensus), they don't appreciate decent men, they twist people's words and try to manipulate and shame, they play damsel in distress when it suits them and miss independence when it suits, they think that they have to behave like men to be equal (which ironically also makes them misogynists), they don't take accountability for their actions, they live worthless empty lives, and I could go on and on. Even though I dislike women in general I don't have too much of a problem with women of a few decades ago, they seem far more real and had much more substance. These days it seems like all they want to do is live pretentious, empty little lives such that that depicted on stupid shows like sex and the city and others. And they defile their own bodies with stupid piercings and tattoos which I think are absolutely revolting, it's like they don't even like themselves, to the point where they try to hide their own skin, which is like hiding themselves. My mother tried to get me interested in feminism when I was about 16 and I found it to be disgusting and I didn't want to get involved in any of that crap. I know that there are different types of feminism but whenever I talked to her about the very worst kinds (ie those that say that male-female penetration is rape), or those that advocate that men be sidelined or even removed from society altogether, she just said that I'm being stupid and that just because of a few bad eggs that doesn't mean that feminism is bad. She couldn't even conceive that if she really thinks they're bad eggs then she should be vocal in condemning them, rather than trying to shame me for pointing it out. For these and other reasons, I don't have much respect for women. But even though I'm prejudiced I think I could probably admire women from past eras, or women from certain other countries. And all of this is the real issue for me, and that's why I've had a few therapy sessions to deal with it. Not to change my mind, since it's obvious that the state of women is in the trashcan, but to just deal with my issues and my anger.

Oh, OK, never mind then...

You're just simply a piece of shit.

I hope your stay here is a short one.

(September 8, 2013 at 4:11 pm)Kereli Wrote: Hi, if anyone would like to ask me any questions I'm happy to respond.

They have. And your response?

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Ok...Kereli. YOU HATE women based on your experience with your mother.

Is this the part where I ask you if you were born between June 22 and July 22?

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(September 9, 2013 at 5:39 am)Kereli Wrote: Let me go into some detail as to why I don't like women. I'm just going to be blunt. They gossip, they don't think for themselves (always going with the concensus), they don't appreciate decent men, they twist people's words and try to manipulate and shame, they play damsel in distress when it suits them and miss independence when it suits, they think that they have to behave like men to be equal (which ironically also makes them misogynists), they don't take accountability for their actions, they live worthless empty lives, and I could go on and on. Even though I dislike women in general I don't have too much of a problem with women of a few decades ago, they seem far more real and had much more substance. These days it seems like all they want to do is live pretentious, empty little lives such that that depicted on stupid shows like sex and the city and others. And they defile their own bodies with stupid piercings and tattoos which I think are absolutely revolting, it's like they don't even like themselves, to the point where they try to hide their own skin, which is like hiding themselves. My mother tried to get me interested in feminism when I was about 16 and I found it to be disgusting and I didn't want to get involved in any of that crap. I know that there are different types of feminism but whenever I talked to her about the very worst kinds (ie those that say that male-female penetration is rape), or those that advocate that men be sidelined or even removed from society altogether, she just said that I'm being stupid and that just because of a few bad eggs that doesn't mean that feminism is bad. She couldn't even conceive that if she really thinks they're bad eggs then she should be vocal in condemning them, rather than trying to shame me for pointing it out. For these and other reasons, I don't have much respect for women. But even though I'm prejudiced I think I could probably admire women from past eras, or women from certain other countries. And all of this is the real issue for me, and that's why I've had a few therapy sessions to deal with it. Not to change my mind, since it's obvious that the state of women is in the trashcan, but to just deal with my issues and my anger.

But one can say EXACTLY the same regarding the male of the human species.

Really Kereli, you have to come up with something more than this pathetic spurious accusation against ALL females of the human species.

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(September 10, 2013 at 6:15 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:

(September 8, 2013 at 4:11 pm)Kereli Wrote: Hi, if anyone would like to ask me any questions I'm happy to respond.

They have. And your response?

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Ok...Kereli. YOU HATE women based on your experience with your mother.

Is this the part where I ask you if you were born between June 22 and July 22?

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(September 9, 2013 at 5:39 am)Kereli Wrote: Let me go into some detail as to why I don't like women. I'm just going to be blunt. They gossip, they don't think for themselves (always going with the concensus), they don't appreciate decent men, they twist people's words and try to manipulate and shame, they play damsel in distress when it suits them and miss independence when it suits, they think that they have to behave like men to be equal (which ironically also makes them misogynists), they don't take accountability for their actions, they live worthless empty lives, and I could go on and on. Even though I dislike women in general I don't have too much of a problem with women of a few decades ago, they seem far more real and had much more substance. These days it seems like all they want to do is live pretentious, empty little lives such that that depicted on stupid shows like sex and the city and others. And they defile their own bodies with stupid piercings and tattoos which I think are absolutely revolting, it's like they don't even like themselves, to the point where they try to hide their own skin, which is like hiding themselves. My mother tried to get me interested in feminism when I was about 16 and I found it to be disgusting and I didn't want to get involved in any of that crap. I know that there are different types of feminism but whenever I talked to her about the very worst kinds (ie those that say that male-female penetration is rape), or those that advocate that men be sidelined or even removed from society altogether, she just said that I'm being stupid and that just because of a few bad eggs that doesn't mean that feminism is bad. She couldn't even conceive that if she really thinks they're bad eggs then she should be vocal in condemning them, rather than trying to shame me for pointing it out. For these and other reasons, I don't have much respect for women. But even though I'm prejudiced I think I could probably admire women from past eras, or women from certain other countries. And all of this is the real issue for me, and that's why I've had a few therapy sessions to deal with it. Not to change my mind, since it's obvious that the state of women is in the trashcan, but to just deal with my issues and my anger.

But one can say EXACTLY the same regarding the male of the human species.

Really Kereli, you have to come up with something more than this pathetic spurious accusation against ALL females of the human species.

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I realize that I have a very negative view of women, and I'm still working through it. If you had my upbringing, if any one of you or anyone at all had my upbringing, they would feel the same. At least I can acknowledge my hangups, which at first wasn't easy. Some people can't acknowledge their hangups if their lives depended on it. And for that I give myself a well earned pat on the back. Do you think it's easy going to therapy for this? It's actually embarrassing, especially since I'm a woman myself.

As for the observations that I've made about women in general, can you honestly say that they sound outlandish? Do I really sound far fetched? Could there be an element of truth in the criticisms that I've made? Surely I can't be wrong on all counts. I don't see any need to be politically correct so why don't we just be mature and honest about women.