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New Levels of Low
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#221
RE: New Levels of Low
November 11, 2013 at 9:49 pm
(November 11, 2013 at 4:46 pm)Godschild Wrote: I pray for God to open your hearts, it is He who does such work, if you find yourself unmoved by God he has either given up on you because He knows your final outcome or, it's not the right time for Him to convict your heart.

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RE: New Levels of Low
November 11, 2013 at 9:53 pm
(November 11, 2013 at 6:22 pm)Godschild Wrote: Being a criminal in a man made society or seen as innocent in the eyes of the Eternal God, that's a no brainer.

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A sentiment which has justified countless atrocities throughout human history.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 12, 2013 at 4:24 am (This post was last modified: November 12, 2013 at 4:27 am by Godscreated.)
(November 11, 2013 at 9:49 pm)whateverist Wrote:
(November 11, 2013 at 4:46 pm)Godschild Wrote: I pray for God to open your hearts, it is He who does such work, if you find yourself unmoved by God he has either given up on you because He knows your final outcome or, it's not the right time for Him to convict your heart.

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Try not to worry too much. In the unlikely event that I get called up as your witness, I've got your back.

Truly that would be the least thing to worry about, only the forgiven could understand God's justice.

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(November 11, 2013 at 9:20 pm)ChildOfReason Wrote:
(November 11, 2013 at 4:46 pm)Godschild Wrote: I pray for God to open your hearts, it is He who does such work, if you find yourself unmoved by God he has either given up on you because He knows your final outcome or, it's not the right time for Him to convict your heart.

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PS What I said id I did not care what someone thought about me, I said nothing about what I think about others, you need to revamp your thinking and bring it around to reasoning the simple.

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Wait, so if he answers your prayer, he exists. If he doesn't, he exists. Sounds logical.

So, your reasoning works like this, I ask you a question and you answer it you exist, you do not answer and you do not exist, silence would be golden.

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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 12, 2013 at 4:26 am
Just when I thought the arrogance had reached it's peak.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 12, 2013 at 4:29 am
(November 12, 2013 at 4:24 am)Godschild Wrote: Truly that would be the least thing to worry about, only the forgiven could understand God's justice.

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Or, to put it in less self serving terms, only christians are brainwashed enough to think what god does could be considered justice. Rolleyes
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 12, 2013 at 4:29 am
(November 12, 2013 at 4:26 am)Aral Gamelon Wrote: Just when I thought the arrogance had reached it's peak.

You're not forgiven and you do not understand God's justice, how much truer could the statement be.

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RE: New Levels of Low
November 12, 2013 at 4:41 am
(November 12, 2013 at 4:29 am)Godschild Wrote:
(November 12, 2013 at 4:26 am)Aral Gamelon Wrote: Just when I thought the arrogance had reached it's peak.

You're not forgiven and you do not understand God's justice, how much truer could the statement be.

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I think god's justice is a contradiction in terms. But hell if he was a just god he would want people to think critically and for themselves, even if they did come the wrong conclusion. He would realize the bare evil in "faith" and never allow it become associated with him. Look no further then a mediocre scam artist for the basic evil in faith.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 12, 2013 at 5:13 am
Only the forgiven can understand gods justice? Where does it say thAt other than your mind? and secondary question: how would you conclude that?

suddenly I'm reminded of this

If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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RE: New Levels of Low
November 12, 2013 at 10:13 am
I am comfortable admitting that I do not understand god's justice.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 12, 2013 at 6:30 pm (This post was last modified: November 12, 2013 at 6:32 pm by Bob Kelso.)
(November 12, 2013 at 4:29 am)Godschild Wrote:
(November 12, 2013 at 4:26 am)Aral Gamelon Wrote: Just when I thought the arrogance had reached it's peak.

You're not forgiven and you do not understand God's justice, how much truer could the statement be.

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Only in your mind is this statement true. I was a Christian for the entirety of my life before 2010, you arrogant prick. I understand your pathetic god's justice just fine and like the rest of the intolerable faith I find it lacking.
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