(November 14, 2013 at 10:04 pm)missluckie26 Wrote:

(November 14, 2013 at 9:57 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Sounds like a justification for intolerance and discrimination.
Survival of the fittest. Natural selection...ROLL ON!

If humans aren’t created equal, then that means they aren’t all created in Gods likeness.

Now I can understand why an atheist might think that primates/animals are unequal based on the competitive, selfish, Darwinian law of the jungle – red in tooth and claw.

But, biblically, God loves all (His) people of all nations despite what evolutionary biologists might say to the contrary or what nihilistic atheists might think about the Übermensch.

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...and no Ryantology, I am not going to post a ton of bible verses to support my claim.

(November 14, 2013 at 10:16 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: If humans aren’t created equal, then that means they aren’t all created in Gods likeness.

And how does this fit in with the biblical narrative of god having a chosen people, empowered to pillage and plunder the surrounding, unchosen tribes?

Quote:Now I can understand why an atheist might think that primates/animals are unequal based on the competitive, selfish, Darwinian law of the jungle – red in tooth and claw.

And now you're just a liar, since you've been told, repeatedly, that from an evolutionary perspective, the survival success of humans and most other primates is down to our nature as social species, that survive in cooperative groups.

Quote:But, biblically, God loves all (His) people of all nations despite what evolutionary biologists might say to the contrary or what nihilistic atheists might think about the Übermensch.

"You may buy your slaves from the heathens around you"- Leviticus 25.

(November 8, 2013 at 7:00 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Science doesn't lead to eugenics.
Atheist humanism does!

Yeah, forced sterilization is promoted by this tenet of humanism:

"All human beings are entitled to inalienable human rights such as those enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights."

Or maybe these humanist ethical rules:

"Abstaining from conduct injurious to life and the physical well-being of persons.
Abstaining from the theft of property of others
Abstaining from sexual violence and misconduct
Abstaining from falsehood, fraud and deception"

But personally I don't see anything there that justifies saying something so moronic, especially considering how much more religious the USA was when eugenics was popular than it is now.

How about this: Racism leads to eugenics.

(November 14, 2013 at 6:28 am)Zen Badger Wrote:

(November 12, 2013 at 4:29 am)Godschild Wrote: You're not forgiven and you do not understand God's justice, how much truer could the statement be.

GC

No, I don't understand how anyone could call it justice.

When any rational person can only ever see it as petty and spiteful cruelty against much weaker entities that cannot fight back.

Like I said you can't understand, I'm glad to see you admit God is a most powerful being, you're beginning to make progress.

GC

(November 15, 2013 at 3:13 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(November 14, 2013 at 6:28 am)Zen Badger Wrote: No, I don't understand how anyone could call it justice.

When any rational person can only ever see it as petty and spiteful cruelty against much weaker entities that cannot fight back.

Like I said you can't understand, I'm glad to see you admit God is a most powerful being, you're beginning to make progress.

GC

Ah, back to appropriating and twisting posts for your own use eh, GC?

Guess it's back to the classics for you.

Are we going to have to start typing "assuming your religion is true" in each post when having these discussions?

(November 15, 2013 at 2:15 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:

(November 8, 2013 at 7:00 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Science doesn't lead to eugenics.
Atheist humanism does!

Yeah, forced sterilization is promoted by this tenet of humanism:

"All human beings are entitled to inalienable human rights such as those enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights."

Or maybe these humanist ethical rules:

"Abstaining from conduct injurious to life and the physical well-being of persons.
Abstaining from the theft of property of others
Abstaining from sexual violence and misconduct
Abstaining from falsehood, fraud and deception"

But personally I don't see anything there that justifies saying something so moronic, especially considering how much more religious the USA was when eugenics was popular than it is now.

All the above hinge on the definition of a human being.
Who sets the definition? The pro-lifers or the abortion on-demand folk?
Did you know some people have abortions when they find out their baby has Downs Syndrome?
www. pregnancybirthbaby.org.au/screening-down-syndrome

(November 15, 2013 at 2:15 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: ...How about this: Racism leads to eugenics.

Agreed.
And speciesism.

(November 15, 2013 at 6:42 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: All the above hinge on the definition of a human being.
Who sets the definition? The pro-lifers or the abortion on-demand folk?
Did you know some people have abortions when they find out their baby has Downs Syndrome?
www. pregnancybirthbaby.org.au/screening-down-syndrome

Yup. Gotta love eugenics. Building a better future, one person at a time

(November 15, 2013 at 6:42 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Did you know some people have abortions when they find out their baby has Downs Syndrome?

I could crack wise, but it would be cruel to compare someone with Down's Syndrome to someone who intentionally suffers from a learning disability.

It is only because of humanist ideals infiltrating Christianity that Christians have changed their definition of 'human being' to include Jews, blacks, Asians and Native Americans in the last century, and carload lots of you still haven't gotten that memo, so don't act like your shit doesn't stink.