Perhaps someone here can explain this too me, as I have a difficult understanding the point of view shared by muslim women when they saw they are religious. Why on earth would any women ever follow a religion and political system that teaches people you deserve to be raped if you do not wear a scarf on your head. That teaching makes me want to vomit, no women deserves rape PERIOD!

Because if you don't you will be killed for it. Why would women want to be part of christianity either? These religions are not friendly to women, unless you just ignore stuff that basically says women are like humanoid cattle.

(December 12, 2013 at 8:02 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Because if you don't you will be killed for it. Why would women want to be part of christianity either? These religions are not friendly to women, unless you just ignore stuff that basically says women are like humanoid cattle.

I know that, but I mean women that spread Islam and try to force it on others too. I can understand going along in order to live.

If you have something pumped into your head enough, especially as a child, you will do the same when you're older. Unless you escape elsewhere, at least.

Cultural conditioning (brainwashing)

Qur'an has certain features like, the wife can choose whether or not she can work or be a housewife, and if she works, she can keep the salary she earns for her and not share with her family, whereas the husband must provide for all.

So it basically gives them some material security in exchange for the destruction of their femininity.

(December 12, 2013 at 8:00 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Perhaps someone here can explain this too me, as I have a difficult understanding the point of view shared by muslim women when they saw they are religious. Why on earth would any women ever follow a religion and political system that teaches people you deserve to be raped if you do not wear a scarf on your head. That teaching makes me want to vomit, no women deserves rape PERIOD!

Where does it say that in the quran?

(December 12, 2013 at 8:24 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Where does it say that in the quran?

I am so tired of this weak ass shit, like I'm supposed to believe that only the Quran informs Islam. Are you next going to claim that Hadiths, Sharia Law, and clerical fatwas are not Islam? We have never bought this feeble excuse so please stop trotting it out every time someone makes an uncomfortable observation.

(December 12, 2013 at 8:32 pm)cato123 Wrote:

(December 12, 2013 at 8:24 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Where does it say that in the quran?

I am so tired of this weak ass shit, like I'm supposed to believe that only the Quran informs Islam. Are you next going to claim that Hadiths, Sharia Law, and clerical fatwas are not Islam? We have never bought this feeble excuse so please stop trotting it out every time someone makes an uncomfortable observation.

Check any hadith or any part of the quran. Most muslim scholars say the penalty for rape should be death, there is no encouragement of rape as far as I'm aware feel free to do some research and prove me wrong though.

(December 12, 2013 at 8:24 pm)paulpablo Wrote:

(December 12, 2013 at 8:00 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Perhaps someone here can explain this too me, as I have a difficult understanding the point of view shared by muslim women when they saw they are religious. Why on earth would any women ever follow a religion and political system that teaches people you deserve to be raped if you do not wear a scarf on your head. That teaching makes me want to vomit, no women deserves rape PERIOD!

Where does it say that in the quran?

It is mentioned in the Qur'an that women shall cover their head and exposed parts of the body. Brother, you are a chemist working in a lab. The procedure asks you to wear lab glasses. You don't wear lab glasses and a chemical bursts in your eyes and makes you blind. Who's fault? Yours. If you wear your lab glasses and the chemical bursts and still hits your eyes, NOT your fault. You followed proper procedure.

Simple. Qur'an tells women they should cover themselves if they wish to be respected. If they don't cover themselves and they are raped? who's fault? Theirs.

That's the logic of the Qur'an. Qur'an is a telegraphic message it doesn't account for all possible situations. Muslims believe that a woman who doesn't cover herself is not worthy of ANY respect and is asking to be raped. Sure, if the woman is raped, the man might get a penalty, but his defense will be? SHE WAS NAKED! SATAN TEMPTED ME. Can you argue and prove him wrong? No. Can you apply Sharia? No. The woman was not following the Qur'an, so why follow the Qur'an to render her justice? Illogical.

We are talking non-sense here, in countries where Sharia applies, you will find 0 women out of millions that are not covered. All women are covered or they are arrested. Not even journalists coming from other countries can display skin. They too have to be covered. So this situation never arises. We are talking imaginary things here.