(December 27, 2013 at 4:51 am)enrico Wrote: Actually when i do have enough time i do answer.
It may not be the answer that people like but i do answer.

Fun fact: "Nuh uh, you can't prove me wrong, that's not evidence!" isn't an answer, no matter how many times you use it.

Quote:Why should i waste my time reporting people.

If you think you've actually got grounds to report someone, then those grounds are reason enough to justify the few seconds it takes to do it. If you don't think you have grounds, to the point where it would be a waste of time, then threatening to do so earlier was just more petty windbaggery from you. I swear, you're like a mobius strip of childish idiocy.

Quote:If reporting would help re-educating people i would report all the time.
Unfortunately some people never learn so there is no point in reporting.
I was feeling reporting when some people swear direct to me and when other people divert my thread with pornographic pictures but what is the point.
Idiots don't change that easily.

Thank you for demonstrating that the reporting system is yet another in a long line of things that you don't understand.

Quote:There are two ways to deal with this sort of things.
One is reporting in the hope that the problem goes away. (it never goes away)

If you keep being a problem, you will go away. We're not required to host your idiocy simply because you enjoy spouting it.

Quote:The other is to not reporting and to grow up so you can deal with the problem instead of hiding the problem under the carpet.

And if the problem's intractable ignorance and inability to form a coherent sentence is beyond our control?

See, that's the thing that irritates me the most about you: you strut around like you're some brilliant genius that's actually contributing something, and you seem totally unaware that absolutely nobody actually sees you as that. Worse still, you seem incapable of letting go of what you think long enough to put on your empathy hat and look at how the things you say appear from the perspective of everyone else, to whom you are a barely literate lunatic with a superiority complex.

Quote:Where is your burden of proof?

Not believing your claims does not entail that we believe the opposite. It just means we think you're a complete, blubbering buffoon: something you continue to confirm for us with every post you make.

(December 27, 2013 at 4:51 am)enrico Wrote: Why should i waste my time reporting people.
If reporting would help re-educating people i would report all the time.
Unfortunately some people never learn so there is no point in reporting.

In that case you have waived all grounds for whining about other people, since you clearly have no problem with them that might warrant Staff intervention. Thus any further such complaining, including childish playground threats of telling teacher, will be treated as spam. Thank you for putting that so clearly in writing and making our job so much easier.

(December 27, 2013 at 8:12 am)Stimbo Wrote:

(December 27, 2013 at 4:51 am)enrico Wrote: Why should i waste my time reporting people.
If reporting would help re-educating people i would report all the time.
Unfortunately some people never learn so there is no point in reporting.

In that case you have waived all grounds for whining about other people, since you clearly have no problem with them that might warrant Staff intervention. Thus any further such complaining, including childish playground threats of telling teacher, will be treated as spam. Thank you for putting that so clearly in writing and making our job so much easier.

Seen and witnessed!

enrico for lunch?

(December 25, 2013 at 8:30 am)enrico Wrote:

(December 24, 2013 at 10:46 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Grave yards are full of the evidence for the end of life.

Grave yards are full of rotting bodies as wrecker yards are full of rusting cars.
Can you see the drivers inside these rusting Cars?
Can you see people consciousness inside these rotting bodies?
Did Santa told you that the driver has got to follow the rotting body?

See what you've done there is mistake real life for the movie Meet Dave with Eddie Murphy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAVUsrEQPBQ

I just skimmed through many of the posts, and I'm sure somebody has already tried to tell Enrico that he needs to learn more about the differences between subjectivity and OBJECTivity. I don't doubt for a second that it hasn't already been pointed out that nobody expects anyone to provide evidence for love, and that such a thing is not required before one would accept that another is in love, and that such a thing has never been raised as an objection toward the actual existence with regards to the object of said love. I believe that you love God. I also believe that God exists only in your head. You don't need to prove your love, suicide bombers and the likes of those that are not as extremely loyal demonstrate that all the time. But none of those things make it clear as to whether or not the object of their love and loyalty actually exists. What I find frustrating is your inability to recognize how incapable you are at resolving that flaw. I love my son, and don't need to prove it. It is subjective, and need only be true for me in order for it to be true. However, if I want to claim him on my taxes, I need to prove he exists, and that he's my son. With regards to god, we are only interested in the latter version of the two scenarios.

When I read things like what is written in the OP, it's the same reaction every time. I sigh heavily, and resist the sudden impulse to slap my own face with the palm of my hand. Its as if some people are willfully ignorant, and from this, they derrive a sense that their artificial knowledge is worthy of the arrogance they exude while sharing it! I see stupid things like this written on facebook with 36 likes. Nonsensical dribble that is intellectually incoherent and filled with deepities. It makes me shutter to think about how many people will never be exposed to the information that is available to them, and its beyond me how we, as a societty, have been able to accomplish so many things while so many of the acheivers are simultaneously making and approving utterances such as these.

I imagine it would be very similar to making an excursion to a city in some part of the world that had never learned any kind of math. If I held a class once a day for a month, teaching only basic addition, and just as it seemed that everyone was understanding the sum of 2+2...Some villiage idiot would come along claiming he knew it was 6. I can imagine the urge of the same face-palm being perfectly justified in that scenario as well.

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(December 27, 2013 at 4:51 am)enrico Wrote: Where is your burden of proof?

(December 27, 2013 at 5:45 am)Esquilax Wrote: Not believing your claims does not entail that we believe the opposite. It just means we think you're a complete, blubbering buffoon: something you continue to confirm for us with every post you make.

You see? Why do things like this still need to be said? Is there any hope for somebody that is intentionally stupid?

(December 27, 2013 at 2:59 am)enrico Wrote:

(December 26, 2013 at 6:23 pm)pocaracas Wrote: I assume someone must have done that... or else how would you know about it?!

NDE's.
Thousand of them.

For the umpteenth time, NDEs are not DEs... bring me someone who's actually dead and then coming back to tell what happened... and then repeat for everyone who dies.... once we get a consistent flow of accounts about the after-life, then I, who have never died, will accept that there may be something there...
Unfortunately, for your fantasy world, this is not the case, is it?
Even NDEs differ wildly in detail... and most people who do get that close to death don't experience anything... so I must wave those NDEs aside as some brain trickery.

(December 27, 2013 at 2:59 am)enrico Wrote:

(December 26, 2013 at 9:13 am)enrico Wrote: Life is the driver of the vehicle called body.

Quote:Perhaps I need to reiterate that the analogy is flawed!

As far as you can not rebut it with real evidence it is not flawed.

Real evidence that consciousness does not survive the body's death?
You're really asking for this?

My grandfather died some 15 years ago. After that, he hasn't provided me nor my mother, nor my grandmother with any insight into the afterlife... it's like his consciousness, his personality, his memories, were gone the moment his body died... multiply this by all the people who have ever lived and died on this planet... There's your evidence!

While I recognize that an absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, I think that's a pretty convincing reason to reject propositions to the contrary. Additionally, one need not prove a negative in order to reject the positive! Insufficient evidence is a perfectly acceptable reason to reject the idea of FUCKING SOULS!

As an interesting side-note, we know that there are parts of the brain, if damaged, will strip you of your ability to comprehend numbers or letters. While other damaged parts prevent you from recognizing your family or even your own identity. Literally every part of our experience is governed by a cognitive process in our brains, and for every part that is damaged, another part of our experience is lost. Yet, theists like Enrico maintain a state of affairs in which your ENTIRE brain is dead, and yet you are able to recognize the spiritual remnants of Grandma? This shit is mind numbingly stupid.

Can we all just bear in mind that Rick believes that an illusionist called Dynamo from Yorkshire is actually magical and has magical powers?

Just want to put this guy's level of intellect in context as we go on just in case anyone had any doubts about how crazy and dangerous he actually is.

(December 27, 2013 at 5:45 am)Esquilax Wrote: If you think you've actually got grounds to report someone, then those grounds are reason enough to justify the few seconds it takes to do it. If you don't think you have grounds, to the point where it would be a waste of time, then threatening to do so earlier was just more petty windbaggery from you. I swear, you're like a mobius strip of childish idiocy.

I already explained what a forum represent to me.
Like in the Roman times everybody could get in this arena and talk, talk and listen, listen and reply whatever they like.
If they do not agree with other people they could go to a different part of the forum where other people speak about different things more in tune with their point of view.
Unfortunately in these modern time the real spirit of forumS has changed and people who are not happy with a certain speaker tend to swear and vandalize the threads.
If by reporting someone who behave like this would help to correct the true spirit of the forum why not reporting but unfortunately the original spirit is gone and no matter where you go you always find idiots along the way so the only way to deal or better say not to deal is waiting to be kicked out and then start all over again in a different forum.
But not all is lost as we all learn something from clash and cohesion.

Quote:Not believing your claims does not entail that we believe the opposite. It just means we think you're a complete, blubbering buffoon: something you continue to confirm for us with every post you make.

How can you say that............Not believing your claims does not entail that we believe the opposite..........when in fact one atheist guy said that life is finite and except one of you everybody else either back him up or kept silent about it.
So who is the buffoon?

(December 28, 2013 at 10:26 am)enrico Wrote: How can you say that............Not believing your claims does not entail that we believe the opposite.

I have a jar full of sweets. They have not been counted.
Now I ask you: are the number of sweets in the jar even or odd?
Those are the only choices available.
You say: even
But I don't believe you.
Does that mean that I believe the number of sweets in the jar are odd?
No.