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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
February 4, 2014 at 7:19 pm (This post was last modified: February 4, 2014 at 7:19 pm by Clueless Morgan.)
(February 4, 2014 at 6:10 pm)Chad32 Wrote: The best we can hope for is that he'll make at least a few people in the audience really think, and that their doubts won't be quickly squashed by their family or church.
That's the key. What I suspect will happen is that group mentality will take over and most people won't even think about what Nye is saying, it'll go in one ear and out the other while they think up their next jeer and grab a another fist full of rotten food to throw.
Unless people have the fortitude to sit down a second time and actually pay attention to the debate I doubt very much whether many minds will be swayed.
(February 4, 2014 at 7:10 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: My prediction:
NYE: Science, science, science, science, science.
HAM: Lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie.
NYE: Actually, that's not true, you see...
HAM: Lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie.
NYE: Wait, slow down, I can't refute all this bullcrap you're spewing at once.
I wish the terms, location and timing of this debate had been better thought through (i.e. not at the creation museum, after Ham's fundraising deadlines were passed, etc.)
35 minutes to tip off; to watch or not to watch, that is the question...
Teenaged X-Files obsession + Bermuda Triangle episode + Self-led school research project = Atheist.
Well .... at least Nye is an engineer and not a biologist. Krauss has debated a few creationists as well, the muslims he debates with sometimes are even arrogant enough to go into math and physics to say that nothing can be infinite. Considering everything ... could be worse. If Dawkins is doing this I will be so fucking disappointed because that guy is a first rate evolutionary biologist.
February 4, 2014 at 7:21 pm (This post was last modified: February 4, 2014 at 7:24 pm by Statler Waldorf.)
I've seen Nye debate before, he's horrible. Ham will destroy him in this debate, he's far more experienced at debating, actually has a degree in science, and understands Nye's position far better than Nye understands creation. I give Nye credit though for actually trying to debate and defend his position rather than running from it like others do. Looking forward to watching it.
(February 4, 2014 at 7:10 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:
My prediction:
NYE: Science, science, science, science, science.
HAM: Lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie.
NYE: Actually, that's not true, you see...
HAM: Lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie.
NYE: Wait, slow down, I can't refute all this bullcrap you're spewing at once.
This is ironic considering the fact that Nye doesn't even have a degree in science and Ham does. I bet you did not know that though. Could you imagine if it were the other way around though? I am sure you’d know it then.
And as we all know, evolution will be true or false depending on who wins or loses the debate in the public eye. Or on who has the most reason to apply the most expensive spin.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(February 4, 2014 at 7:21 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: I've seen Nye debate before, he's horrible. Ham will destroy him in this debate, he's far more experienced at debating, actually has a degree in science, and understands Nye's position far better than Nye understands creation. I give Nye credit though for actually trying to debate and defend his position rather than running from it like others do. Looking forward to watching it.
This is ironic considering the fact that Nye doesn't even have a degree in science and Ham does. I bet you did not know that though. Could you imagine if it were the other way around though? I am sure you’d know it then.
(February 4, 2014 at 7:25 pm)Stimbo Wrote: And as we all know, evolution will be true or false depending on who wins or loses the debate in the public eye. Or on who has the most reason to apply the most expensive spin.
No need for damage control and spin yet my friend! Nye has not lost yet.
Actually, I'm already seeing the first of the lies coming from this. It's billed as starting at 7pm, yet it's nearly midnight and still no show.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
February 4, 2014 at 7:28 pm (This post was last modified: February 4, 2014 at 7:29 pm by Statler Waldorf.)
(February 4, 2014 at 7:25 pm)futilethewinds Wrote:
You've never seen Nye debate have you? lol
(February 4, 2014 at 7:27 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Actually, I'm already seeing the first of the lies coming from this. It's billed as starting at 7pm, yet it's nearly midnight and still no show.
February 4, 2014 at 7:32 pm (This post was last modified: February 4, 2014 at 7:33 pm by Cyberman.)
(February 4, 2014 at 7:21 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: This is ironic considering the fact that Nye doesn't even have a degree in science and Ham does. I bet you did not know that though.
Actually, Ham's degreee is in applied science; basically taking existing scientific principles and making something useful out of them. Apart from being a grotesque waste of a degree, this means he's added nothing to the body of human knowledge while at the same time pretending he's some sort of scientific authority. In terms of scientific qualifications, Ham is as qualified as any pastry chef.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
