Were both participants allowed to use facts, or is Bill Nye cheating?

(February 4, 2014 at 9:05 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: We'll all watching it together and are very opinionated people

Oh, I see.

genetic entropy, yeah lets not bring up the concept was created by a creationist. I'm sure his argument isn't biased at all.

(February 4, 2014 at 9:07 pm)Stimbo Wrote: The fallacy here, of course, is the false equivocation between what an individual is capable of compared to successive generations. Evolution works on the generational level.

I was refuting Deist’s claim that if something small happens something great can therefore also happen. There are limitations to how many generations you can have though.

Quote: But to engage your original analogy of walking a billion miles, that's the whole principle between generation starships; that the vessel is launched and the descendants of the original crew and passengers eventually disembark at their destination.

I am not following you here.

(February 4, 2014 at 9:08 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Thanks Statler!

You're welcome! I would think that you would appreciate the chance to discuss the debate with both sides of the debate being in the forum. That’s why I am here and not discussing this on a Christian forum.

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(February 4, 2014 at 9:17 pm)Asimm Wrote: genetic entropy, yeah lets not bring up the concept was created by a creationist. I'm sure his argument isn't biased at all.

The levels of entropy are measurable. It was not invented by anyone.

The theory to use it to refute against evolution was, and it still falls short to all the studies of evolution that over shadow it and still remain the top scientific theory.

(February 4, 2014 at 9:21 pm)Asimm Wrote: The theory to use it to refute against evolution was, and it still falls short to all the studies of evolution that over shadow it and still remain the top scientific theory.

Are you suggesting that observable rates do not count if they contradict the Darwinian paradigm? You're starting to sound rather religious.

(February 4, 2014 at 9:17 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:

(February 4, 2014 at 9:07 pm)Stimbo Wrote: The fallacy here, of course, is the false equivocation between what an individual is capable of compared to successive generations. Evolution works on the generational level.

I was refuting Deist’s claim that if something small happens something great can therefore also happen. There are limitations to how many generations you can have though.

Actually, just to be clear, the comment to which I was responding was itself in response to DP's reply to your question "If you can walk a mile can you walk a billion miles?" He wasn't making the claim you just asserted.

I was pointing out that there is a difference between an individual walking a mile and generations of that individual completeing a journey of a billion miles.

(February 4, 2014 at 9:17 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:

Quote: But to engage your original analogy of walking a billion miles, that's the whole principle between generation starships; that the vessel is launched and the descendants of the original crew and passengers eventually disembark at their destination.

I am not following you here.

Perhaps try again with my above clarification in mind.

Nye is riding the "appeal to personal incredulity" horse pretty hard….

OMG! Is he REALLY still trying to make "kind" a thing???

Just tuned in, the stupid coming out of Ham's mouth is already fucking unbearable. "There was plenty of room on the ark"... how is this even a serious debate?