(February 19, 2014 at 5:20 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:

(February 18, 2014 at 8:45 pm)Shep Wrote: I'd be interested and appreciate a reply from the theists that are observing or replying here ... would you really murder a baby if god(s) told you to?

I'd murder a baby for cash. Does that count?

(I already answered no. See above)

Hi Fodo,

Thank you for answering. My next question would be, would you still say no knowing your god(s) would send you to hell for disobeying an order?

I would hope their answer would be, "If I heard voices in my head tell me to kill my kid, I would check myself into the Psych ward"

..But usually it's some cop-out like "Gawd would never say that" despite the far worse requests from gawd than just killing one kid.

(February 19, 2014 at 6:14 pm)Shep Wrote: Hi Fodo,

Thank you for answering. My next question would be, would you still say no knowing your god(s) would send you to hell for disobeying an order?

How would I know that? If I'm not sure about killing the baby, then hell doesn't apply.

I'm in hell all the time for the crime of following my own interests at the expense of my own well being. That's justice for you... you get what you deserve.

(February 19, 2014 at 8:07 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:

(February 19, 2014 at 6:14 pm)Shep Wrote: Hi Fodo,

Thank you for answering. My next question would be, would you still say no knowing your god(s) would send you to hell for disobeying an order?

How would I know that? If I'm not sure about killing the baby, then hell doesn't apply.

I'm in hell all the time for the crime of following my own interests at the expense of my own well being. That's justice for you... you get what you deserve.

What "hell" would you be referring to here?

(February 19, 2014 at 9:53 pm)rasetsu Wrote: What "hell" would you be referring to here?

I think he's saying that being fr0d0 is a hell in and of itself.

It certainly is hell listening to him.

(February 19, 2014 at 8:07 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: How would I know that? If I'm not sure about killing the baby, then hell doesn't apply.

I'm in hell all the time for the crime of following my own interests at the expense of my own well being. That's justice for you... you get what you deserve.

Hmm ... then what if you had died not giving god(s) an answer either way, where do you think he would send you then?

(February 18, 2014 at 8:45 pm)Shep Wrote: I'd be interested and appreciate a reply from the theists that are observing or replying here ... would you really murder a baby if god(s) told you to?

Yes, if I was totally sure God was telling me. God might be ready to bring the child home, which would better than staying here. When God ordered Abraham to sacrifice his son, Abraham obeyed only to be stopped by God at the last second. It was a test of his obedience. Abraham knew it would be for the best and also believed that God could bring his son back to life if he desired. One problem is that some mentally ill people think that God is talking to them when he's not and do terrible things. (Please, nobody come back and say that all christians are mentally ill. I know I left myself open for that one.)

All I was going to ask was how would you be totally sure "God" was doing the telling.

(February 19, 2014 at 10:38 pm)Stimbo Wrote: All I was going to ask was how would you be totally sure "God" was doing the telling.

Good question. I assume I'd know at the time.

Hmm. Sounds a little vague to be basing another person's life on.