God bless you Discipulus! You are in His hand!

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(March 17, 2014 at 5:16 pm)rasetsu Wrote: Depends. How many goats is the rapist going to give my father?

What do you do with the goats and who do you sacrifice them too?

(March 17, 2014 at 5:17 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: discipulus, I know where you're going with this. God doesn't force "himself" on us. I get it because I once preached it. But, I don't believe what you believe anymore.

For good reason.

Anyway!

That actually was not my point at all, but yes I would agree with what you said.

My point very simply is that love is something that must be freely given and freely received. Since the very nature of love requires this choice, it can be rejected or accepted. This applies to any relationship.

So who's the suprise sex'R?

God dosen't force himself on you....he just tortures you for eternity if you reject him.

That's like totally different.

(March 17, 2014 at 5:24 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: God dosen't force himself on you....he just tortures you for eternity if you reject him.

That's like totally different.

Yeah if I shoplift I get a fine or some time in jail. But I get eternally tortured if I don't believe in a douchebag!?!?

(March 17, 2014 at 5:21 pm)discipulus Wrote: My point very simply is that love is something that must be freely given and freely received. Since the very nature of love requires this choice, it can be rejected or accepted. This applies to any relationship.

Typical theist thinking only in absolutes.

(March 17, 2014 at 5:24 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: God dosen't force himself on you....he just tortures you for eternity if you reject him.

That's like totally different.

If he raped people outside Burger Kings, that would be bad and no one would think of blaming the victim.

But eternal torment for unrequited love? Obviously, the loveless, ungrateful, soul-teasing bitch had it coming.

(March 17, 2014 at 5:21 pm)discipulus Wrote:

(March 17, 2014 at 5:17 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: discipulus, I know where you're going with this. God doesn't force "himself" on us. I get it because I once preached it. But, I don't believe what you believe anymore.

For good reason.

Anyway!

That actually was not my point at all, but yes I would agree with what you said.

My point very simply is that love is something that must be freely given and freely received. Since the very nature of love requires this choice, it can be rejected or accepted. This applies to any relationship.

There was no reason to single me out with your earlier thread. I don't even know you. But if you wanted to embarrass me, I don't understand why.

(March 17, 2014 at 5:24 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: God dosen't force himself on you....he just tortures you for eternity if you reject him.

That's like totally different.

Yup, it's like the difference between holding you down and raping you vs threatening to break in and kill you in your sleep if you don't have sex with him.

(March 17, 2014 at 5:32 pm)Deidre32 Wrote:

(March 17, 2014 at 5:21 pm)discipulus Wrote:

There was no reason to single me out with your earlier thread. I don't even know you. But if you wanted to embarrass me, I don't understand why.

Weren't you flattered?