(March 17, 2014 at 9:07 pm)Rahul Wrote:

(March 17, 2014 at 5:21 pm)discipulus Wrote: That actually was not my point at all, but yes I would agree with what you said.

My point very simply is that love is something that must be freely given and freely received. Since the very nature of love requires this choice, it can be rejected or accepted. This applies to any relationship.

Hahaha.

This is sad. Speaking as a cured former Christian this is simply not an accurate analogy in the least.

The bible uses a very old technique to bind the victim to it. It teaches it's followers that they are weak, that they are sinners, that they are undeserving of god's grace.

That eternal torment in hell, a place that god himself created, is something we do to ourselves, even though he set up a binary choice to obey him and go to heaven or suffer there forever.

God is the classic abuser. Any psychiatrist can tell you how abusers break down their victims, make them feel like they are the reason the abuse happens, that they are worthless and undeserving of the magnanimity of the abuser. That only the abuser could ever care about the victim.

It's classic Stockholm Syndrome.

Man is actually the abuser, concocting a god as his scapegoat. Perhaps that is all religion (and all religions) ever really was, is and ever will be.

Discipulus, the next time you have the hots for someone, just say it straight (and preferably in private). Beating around the bush and making rape allegories (usually) doesn't do the trick..

That's just the Christian way to pick up women, didn't you know?

(March 17, 2014 at 9:19 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: Beating around the bush and making rape allegories (usually) doesn't do the trick..

Jeez, you sound just like my parole officer...

(March 17, 2014 at 9:45 pm)Rahul Wrote:

(March 17, 2014 at 9:19 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: Beating around the bush and making rape allegories (usually) doesn't do the trick..

Jeez, you sound just like my parole officer...

The last parole officer I encountered said, "Put down that ax-"

I just can't wait till I get out of prison.

(March 17, 2014 at 9:45 pm)Rahul Wrote: Jeez, you sound just like my parole officer...

(S)he has a point, you know..

(March 17, 2014 at 9:19 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: Discipulus, the next time you have the hots for someone, just say it straight (and preferably in private). Beating around the bush and making rape allegories (usually) doesn't do the trick..

Lol!!

He doesn't like me "like that." He is concerned I've made a grave error in "turning my back" on God. As a former Christian, I understand his piety for lack of a better word.
As much as I try to see where it comes from, it's one of the tenets of Christianity, perhaps religion in general, that irks me. Worried about the after life and "saving souls," etc.

Coming to where I'm at now and feeling comfortable with an atheistic stance, I don't understand why a person's belief or disbelief in a god, determine "my" eternity? If a god exists, why would he wish to make "finding" him so hard?

And I don't want to hear a pantheistic reply..."well, we can see god in the universe, with a capital U."

I've heard it all as we all have. If a god is real, why does he hide?

(March 17, 2014 at 9:46 pm)Beccs Wrote: The last parole officer I encountered said, "Put down that ax-"

That reminds me of what happens to all the probation workers in Misfits.

(March 17, 2014 at 9:51 pm)futilethewinds Wrote:

(March 17, 2014 at 9:46 pm)Beccs Wrote: The last parole officer I encountered said, "Put down that ax-"

That reminds me of what happens to all the probation workers in Misfits.

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They always die.

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Good taste. I love Misfits!