(April 1, 2010 at 5:54 pm)divermike Wrote: I think the arrogance of our educated minds is in effect killing our souls.

You would rather be uneducated? Would you apply your "knowledge" of something you have no proof of - your full fledged devotion to something that you only believe because you were told it as a child - to other things in life? Such as advertisements? No, you wouldn't, so why avoid reason when it comes to God?

What is the soul of a human? Our moral well-being; our happiness? The word "soul" is too ambiguous.

It's more like the arrogance of limited knowledge dropping other knowledge. Up to date knowledge shouldn't impinge on religious knowledge, where it does the religious knowledge is (thankfully) proved to be false. Where it doesn't is still very important knowledge.

(April 2, 2010 at 4:29 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: It's more like the arrogance of limited knowledge dropping other knowledge. Up to date knowledge shouldn't impinge on religious knowledge, where it does the religious knowledge is (thankfully) proved to be false. Where it doesn't is still very important knowledge.

Still, religious knowledge is merely a placeholder for that which is not yet discovered. Using it in place of ignorance, when you have no idea of what does actually fill the void, is, at best, still ignorant. "I don't know" is a far better and far more honest assertion than using god to fill the gaps.

No that's bollocks. Christianity is never about understanding how things work... that's a red herring to considerations of God.. and only something science, for example answers.

Our theological philosophical considerations may be based upon science, but are never scientific in the way that empirically defined 'ideas' are.

I do not think divermike was saying that education is a bad thing I believe he meant some people allow their education to lead them into arrogance. Just my thoughts.

Divermike the mustard seed in the parable does not refer to creation it refers to the growth of the christian church and how true the parable is.

Quote:I believe he meant some people allow their education to lead them into arrogance.

Just like some bible-thumpers allow their ignorance to lead them into arrogance?

Quote:God is the immemorial refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the miserable. They find not only sanctuary in His arms, but also a kind of superiority, soothing to their macerated egos: He will set them above their betters.

--H.L. Mencken

Divermike, your interpretation of the mustard seed is a fallacy known as "presentism" whereas people interpret things in the past with current events and ideas that did not exist in that age.

(April 7, 2010 at 11:18 pm)Godschild Wrote: I do not think divermike was saying that education is a bad thing I believe he meant some people allow their education to lead them into arrogance. Just my thoughts.

Divermike the mustard seed in the parable does not refer to creation it refers to the growth of the christian church and how true the parable is.

This little disagreement shows that every aspect of the bible can be viewed in many different ways.

Almost evry part of it can be 'shoe horned' to make it mean what you want it too at the time.

I think theists should make a book that is translated literally so that interpretations cannot get in the way... but then there would be hundreds of books... with different interprets in them... so nvm lol.

It's difficult to make it into something like, say, a science textbook...

Help me science...

--WOO post 300!