Yo Rev, this is how completely unwilling Answers in Genesis' loathsome paymaster is to even consider opposing viewpoints: he won't even accept creationism from a christian school. It's his specific brand of young earth, literalistic creationism, or it's nothing.

This is a man who is so opposed to anyone believing something that isn't exactly what he believes that he'll chastise the people who believe the same wrong things as he does, for not believing it enough. How can he possibly be trusted to honestly represent a view that is directly opposed to what he wants to be true?

(April 21, 2014 at 5:54 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote:

(April 21, 2014 at 5:48 pm)Heywood Wrote: Atheist assume it can because otherwise their world view would be incoherent.

Once again, if the theory of abiogenesis is false, it does not mean anything else in science is. It only means we don't yet understand how life arose.

This seems to be a common reply to those who reject God and don't have an answer to perplexing questions. "We don't yet but we are working on it." The problem is that the answer is, "God." Because some don't like that answer they keep searching in vain.

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(April 21, 2014 at 5:39 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:

(April 21, 2014 at 5:27 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Then everyone should of evolved into the strongest, most rugged, smartest, creature imaginable. The rabbit must not of got the memo.

And there it is again: you don't understand the theory. How much plainer can I say it? Take Ken Ham's dick out of your mouth and read a book on the subject. Fucking Christ, is it that hard to dust off a library card?

And . . . "the rabbit must not have got the memo."

You can criticize my poor grammar but go please refrain from the obscenities. Thank you.

(April 22, 2014 at 5:56 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: This seems to be a common reply to those who reject God and don't have an answer to perplexing questions. "We don't yet but we are working on it." The problem is that the answer is, "God." Because some don't like that answer they keep searching in vain.

Can you demonstrate that the answer is god, or is this another one of those "bald assertions that I expect you to take on faith," deals? Because if that's the case, then the answer really is still "I don't know, but we're getting there," and you're just being dishonest and arrogant in asserting that you have an answer.

Are you being dishonest and arrogant, Rev?

(April 22, 2014 at 5:56 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: This seems to be a common reply to those who reject God and don't have an answer to perplexing questions. "We don't yet but we are working on it." The problem is that the answer is, "God." Because some don't like that answer they keep searching in vain.

If (or when) we actually discover that to be the answer, then so be it...
Until then, we should not commit to one answer over any other, just because we were taught to believe in it as kids.

(April 22, 2014 at 5:56 pm)Revelation777 Wrote:

(April 21, 2014 at 5:54 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Once again, if the theory of abiogenesis is false, it does not mean anything else in science is. It only means we don't yet understand how life arose.

This seems to be a common reply to those who reject God and don't have an answer to perplexing questions. "We don't yet but we are working on it." The problem is that the answer is, "God." Because some don't like that answer they keep searching in vain.

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(April 21, 2014 at 5:39 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: And there it is again: you don't understand the theory. How much plainer can I say it? Take Ken Ham's dick out of your mouth and read a book on the subject. Fucking Christ, is it that hard to dust off a library card?

And . . . "the rabbit must not have got the memo."

You can criticize my poor grammar but go please refrain from the obscenities. Thank you.

And that seems to be the common answer from those who don't understand science, "I don't understand so goddidit!"

If we depended on the bible for all our knowledge we would have barely progressed beyond the tech level of the late Roman empire.

Thank reality for science.

(April 22, 2014 at 5:49 pm)Revelation777 Wrote:

(April 21, 2014 at 5:46 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Rev: can inert matter produce life? Even if you had all the energy in the Universe, would a dead stick turn into life?

Where are you going with that question?

Now now - no jumping the gun! Why not try answering it first, then we'll see?

(April 22, 2014 at 5:56 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: This seems to be a common reply to those who reject God and don't have an answer to perplexing questions. "We don't yet but we are working on it." The problem is that the answer is, "God." Because some don't like that answer they keep searching in vain.

And yet, every time we have answered one of those perplexing questions, the answer has not been "god." It is the people who said "we don't know yet, but we are working on it" who found many of those answers, as opposed to the people who decided that god must have done it and that to continue to search was in vain.

It seems to me that if there is one search that has been in vain, it is the search for god, who is always jussssst about to appear on the scene and show us what we've been missing, but never actually ever arrives.

Almost as if it doesn't exist, really.

Quote:I'm hirsute and love bananas but not an ape.

Yes, you are. So am I and so is every other human being on the planet. Humans, gorillas, chimps and bonobos are taxonomically identical down to the Family level (Hominidae).

To claim that human beings are not apes is precisely akin to claiming that Chihuahuas are not dogs because they don't look exactly like mastiffs.

When you deny the basic precepts of biological evolution (common descent, speciation, natural/sexual selection, and so forth) and do so in the face of overwhelming evidence for evolution, you're simply displaying a willful, deliberate ignorance. This is the intellectual equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears, squinching your eyes shut, and shouting, 'Nyah, nyah, nyah, I can't hear you!!'

You've lost this one, Rev. Evolution is a fact, as little in doubt as gravity. When you claim the opposite, you look as foolish as someone doubting that gravity is real.

Boru

(April 22, 2014 at 5:56 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: This seems to be a common reply to those who reject God and don't have an answer to perplexing questions. "We don't yet but we are working on it." The problem is that the answer is, "God." Because some don't like that answer they keep searching in vain.

Wait... so your claim is that a person must have the answer to any perplexing questions right now? Absent any evidence, you are championing your answer over an honest "I don't know?"

Rev, are you a primate?