I just wish you'd prove to us that you're worth our time, kog.

I'm not asking for much.

(June 28, 2014 at 11:50 am)Jenny A Wrote: Lets look at the logically shall we?

If I am not an atheist and I lie and say I am, then I'm not a lying atheist, I'm a lying believer. Right?

The truth is much simpler: I'm an atheist.

When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty."

(June 28, 2014 at 11:46 am)Knowledge of God Wrote: My point being: Are atheists liars or not?

Everybody is capable of being a liar. Your religion, or lack thereof, has nothing to do with it.

(June 28, 2014 at 11:35 am)Knowledge of God Wrote: Take your best shot.

You can't prove you are not a moron.

(June 28, 2014 at 11:55 am)Knowledge of God Wrote: But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty."

That last bit is apt. You think you know god, but what you know is only what is inside of you and what you've been told is in the Bible. Consequently what is inside of you is rather impoverished: you are irrational and think everyone is lying to you. That's poverty of mind.

(June 28, 2014 at 11:46 am)Knowledge of God Wrote: My point being: Are atheists liars or not?

To the last man.

Why the fuck would I be concerned with "proving" to you I'm an atheist? I'm not interested in your shabby, borrowed presuppositionalist sophistry. I don't have the time. You claim there's a god and that it's Yahweh. It's your burden of evidence/proof. As long as you continue to fail as miserably as you have to date, I can dismiss your "arguments" out of hand. But please do let me know if the shadow of an idea ever crosses your path.

(June 28, 2014 at 12:08 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: Why the fuck would I be concerned with "proving" to you I'm an atheist? I'm not interested in your shabby, borrowed presuppositionalist sophistry. I don't have the time. You claim there's a god and that it's Yahweh. It's your burden of evidence/proof. As long as you continue to fail as miserably as you have to date, I can dismiss your "arguments" out of hand. But please do let me know if the shadow of an idea ever crosses your path.

Luckily I don't have to prove anything to you. And why should I? Atheism is just the natural conclusion of skepticism and following the evidence. It's not something I need to prove to anyone else.

Ask yourself this: why is it that you need to prove to us that we aren't really atheists? What does it matter to you? This is more about you than us. And it's telling, too. You can't possibly imagine a world where people lead happy, fulfilled lives without the pacifier. That's what your religion teaches you. In order to find happiness, you have to be with Jesus. Is your life any happier/sadder than mine? I have good days, bad days and great days, just like you. I have a wonderful family that loves me. I have a good job, a wonderful girlfriend, my life is good. And I live within the realms of reality. My life getting better or worse from here is solely up to me and my environment---just like you. So take a look around. Take stock of your life. Is it any different---really---than a non-believer's? Do you have anything in your life that requires god in order to be there? Or could anyone else have that same thing with no god, and you just attribute it to god?

My guess is the only thing you could try and recite back to us is your magic sky daddy itself, and if you accurately took stock, you'd find it doesn't really do anything outside of your head, and the rest is available to all of us.

(June 28, 2014 at 12:21 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Luckily I don't have to prove anything to you. And why should I? Atheism is just the natural conclusion of skepticism and following the evidence. It's not something I need to prove to anyone else.

1. Cause nobody is interested?
2. That natural conclusion of skepticism and following "the evidence" you claim isn't something you need to prove to anyone else?
3. You're wrong.. again.