(July 13, 2014 at 1:17 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:

(July 12, 2014 at 11:17 pm)psychoslice Wrote: I'll get back to you, because you send me to drink, that's what I'm doing right now, I'll have one for you.

So you haven't read much at all then?

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Beer o'clock here too Bad Writer

I have but you all don't believe it, so what can I say ?.

You haven't told us what "it" is, how can we decide if we believe or not?

(July 13, 2014 at 2:36 am)Losty Wrote: You haven't told us what "it" is, how can we decide if we believe or not?

I think you have already made up your mind, no matter what I say.

For fuck sake. It's like talking to a child.

(July 13, 2014 at 2:45 am)psychoslice Wrote:

(July 13, 2014 at 2:36 am)Losty Wrote: You haven't told us what "it" is, how can we decide if we believe or not?

I think you have already made up your mind, no matter what I say.

Or you could show us what you read so that we can possibly learn something new.

(July 13, 2014 at 3:31 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: For fuck sake. It's like talking to a child.

And from my side it sounds like I'm talking to a know it all.

So, show us what you got. I'm all for arguments in favor of sanitation and better infrastructure.

(July 12, 2014 at 3:52 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote:

(July 11, 2014 at 5:38 pm)psychoslice Wrote: Hi, yes its from my own experience, after taking the polio Vac. I started to have epileptic fits which lasted for 3 to 4 years, I also know a lady who's son after being Vac. became autistic. And of course its from reading other peoples stories on their experience. All I am really saying is, Vac's are not totally safe, why on earth can't people admit this ?.

Thank you.

And quid pro quo...

I'm perfectly happy to admit vaccines are not totally safe. Any medication you take can have adverse outcomes! It ain't mouthwash!

Next question, you said (I think) that polio was dying out anyway and that the vaccine may not have been the main cause of its virtual elimination? (apologies if I'm misquoting here).

So there's two issues here, does it cause unwanted effects and does it stop polio.

Let's assume for argument sake that the polio vac DOES causes epilepsy in a few cases, including youes. Do you think that information and your experience would affect your view on how effective it is at stopping polio?

Appreciate the time slice. It's really helpful for me to try to understand your position. I'm not trying to argue with you, just understand where you're coming from.

Sorry to but in, but psychoslice, I really am curious about the above.

(July 13, 2014 at 6:16 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote:

(July 12, 2014 at 3:52 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Thank you.

And quid pro quo...

I'm perfectly happy to admit vaccines are not totally safe. Any medication you take can have adverse outcomes! It ain't mouthwash!

Next question, you said (I think) that polio was dying out anyway and that the vaccine may not have been the main cause of its virtual elimination? (apologies if I'm misquoting here).

So there's two issues here, does it cause unwanted effects and does it stop polio.

Let's assume for argument sake that the polio vac DOES causes epilepsy in a few cases, including youes. Do you think that information and your experience would affect your view on how effective it is at stopping polio?

Appreciate the time slice. It's really helpful for me to try to understand your position. I'm not trying to argue with you, just understand where you're coming from.

Sorry to but in, but psychoslice, I really am curious about the above.

WoW an actual decent reply, hi Jacob, yea I can see where you are coming from, that sometimes a few have to suffer for the majority. All is was saying really, did some diseases start to fade out after sanitation was introduced, even in the primitive surgery days they didn't know a lot about gems, where is now they do and far less people die because of this knowledge.

Also at least you have the balls or whatever is down there to admit that vac. is not totally safe, as with also, all medications.

We never denied that last part, btw. If you're going to talk about someone else's views, make sure you represent them accurately. All we said is that we don't have any specific instances of vaccines harming another person on hand. It would have been really nice if you had afforded us whatever it was that you had read.