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A god or a creator?
October 25, 2014 at 5:52 pm
Can we separate these?
for example...
there's a perceived god who created all.
or there is a 2000 year old 'perceive god' which manages the needs of medieval people,
or there is a creator, before the big bang, and we have no contact with 'it' whatsoever !!
SO we can have creator, but not a god?!
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RE: A god or a creator?
October 25, 2014 at 7:58 pm
(October 25, 2014 at 5:52 pm)lifesagift Wrote: Can we separate these?
for example...
there's a perceived god who created all.
or there is a 2000 year old 'perceive god' which manages the needs of medieval people,
or there is a creator, before the big bang, and we have no contact with 'it' whatsoever !!
SO we can have creator, but not a god?!
Sure you can. If the universe is self-created, then bingo, you've got the one and not the other.
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RE: A god or a creator?
October 25, 2014 at 8:10 pm
(October 25, 2014 at 7:58 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (October 25, 2014 at 5:52 pm)lifesagift Wrote: Can we separate these?
for example...
there's a perceived god who created all.
or there is a 2000 year old 'perceive god' which manages the needs of medieval people,
or there is a creator, before the big bang, and we have no contact with 'it' whatsoever !!
SO we can have creator, but not a god?!
Sure you can. If the universe is self-created, then bingo, you've got the one and not the other.
Boru
Really neither in the sense they mean 'creator'.
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RE: A god or a creator?
October 25, 2014 at 8:37 pm
There's always the idea of a demiurge, a popular concept among the so-called gnostics.
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RE: A god or a creator?
October 26, 2014 at 4:52 pm
Apologies, the question is much simpler than that.... is our universe a design/experiment in a test tube or computer in another much bigger, earlier,different dimension/realm? I guess we'll never know that, a bit like the ants in my garden will never know about the sea.
But I'm asking if we leave that option as unknown, are we still atheist?