(January 9, 2015 at 7:40 pm)Chili Wrote: All he said is that you [consciously] know that you will die, and that already means that the TOK makes reference to the conscious mind in us.
What's a TOK when it's at home?
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Detecting design or intent in nature
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 What's a TOK when it's at home?
  (January 9, 2015 at 8:54 pm)abaris Wrote: What's a TOK when it's at home? Theory Of Ketchup. I got it straight from the sauce.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 9, 2015 at 9:05 pm
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2015 at 9:06 pm by abaris.)
(January 9, 2015 at 9:03 pm)Surgenator Wrote: I stopped reading at TOK. And I'd still like to know what it is. Maybe it's all the difference between bullshit and enlightenment. (January 9, 2015 at 9:03 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Theory Of Ketchup. I got it straight from the sauce. Totally oblivious knucklehead might be more along the lines of the overall message.
Dang - out-acronymmed. That's what I get for punning and mast researching my novel at the same time.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
 (January 9, 2015 at 8:54 pm)abaris Wrote:(January 9, 2015 at 7:40 pm)Chili Wrote: All he said is that you [consciously] know that you will die, and that already means that the TOK makes reference to the conscious mind in us. No such thing as 'a' TOK and Tree Of Knowledge is the conscious mind in which we think we are, as thinker, the rationalist would say. Upon this image the rationalist built what is known as British Analytic Philosophy in opposite to what they called Continental philosophy because it was different than theirs. What they failed to realize is that continental philosophy was built on what we call Panpsychism today, and therefore is opposite but has nothing to do with the continent for sure. We would just call her Mary for short, as local, I suppose. 
I do enjoy these reminders that the Bible is so open to interpretation that after 2,000 years and 40,000+ denominations, we can still find people whipping up a whole new mythos around it.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 9, 2015 at 10:42 pm
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2015 at 10:43 pm by Chili.)
Sorry, but in the garden of Eden were two trees. One was the TOL = Tree of Life, and the other was TOK = Tree of Knowledge in which we would know what is good and what is bad. Once we eat from it's apple our Adam's apple will become the place where reason is induced into our stream of words, that so will be made conventional there.
Opposite this would be glossolalia when the stream of syllables freely flow over this dam, as Evgeny Zamjatin did say in WE. Of course none of that matters much here, but the fact remains that the TOK is the home of our intelligence, while wisdom is home in the TOL and that is where [our] Mary would be home that they called woman in Gen. 2, I think it was. (January 9, 2015 at 10:33 pm)Tonus Wrote: I do enjoy these reminders that the Bible is so open to interpretation that after 2,000 years and 40,000+ denominations, we can still find people whipping up a whole new mythos around it. It is like a recipe book and therefore not for Catholics to read on their own.
Interestingly, the 'forbidden' fruit was never mentioned as being an apple. That's just a (much) later interpretation.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 9, 2015 at 11:43 pm
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2015 at 11:45 pm by Chili.)
(January 9, 2015 at 10:47 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Interestingly, the 'forbidden' fruit was never mentioned as being an apple. That's just a (much) later interpretation. OK, but the "thou shall not eat from it lest you will [consciously] now" is the 'dam' that made the ego conscious known as Adam; and that is how Adam became known as the persona of man. Don't forget here that man was created and formed as man, and Adam was an add-on in Gen.3 to never be formed and still is an illusion today. |
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