A worm's mind has been mapped and uploaded to a robot. It's probably safe to say that a worm has no conscious though but in principle, you could do the same thing with a person.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology...vi-AA8GMIo

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(January 28, 2015 at 10:52 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: A worm's mind has been mapped and uploaded to a robot.

That's wicked cool. And I don't usually use 'wicked' like that.

That is amazing.

That's SO cool!

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Quote:Of course, the brain simulation still isn’t exact - for one, the researchers had to simplify the process that triggers an artificial neuron to fire.

Nevertheless, this is still fucking amazing.

I wonder how far our current technology can take this. Suppose you did this with a higher animal like a mouse. Would you then have a conscious machine?

(January 28, 2015 at 11:46 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: That's SO cool!

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Weird, no ?
Denying the banhammer a victim will frustrate it. Do we want a frustrated banhammer ?

Could be dangerous . . . .

(January 29, 2015 at 12:07 am)AFTT47 Wrote: I wonder how far our current technology can take this. Suppose you did this with a higher animal like a mouse. Would you then have a conscious machine?

I don't think that will ever be possible. Subjective experience can't be programmed, because if it can be traced back to a source (the cogs if you will) then it's an objective triviality.

(January 29, 2015 at 12:07 am)AFTT47 Wrote: I wonder how far our current technology can take this. Suppose you did this with a higher animal like a mouse. Would you then have a conscious machine?

Just thinking about the memory space needed for the mapping.
Human brain has ~100 billion neurons with each neuron makes over 1000 connections.
A mouse's brain is ~0.03% smaller in mass than a human brain.
If we assume the neurons between mouse and human are rougly the same, then a mouse will have 30 million neurons and 30 billion connections in total. You would need a 64bit integer to give each neuron a unique id. You will also need 64bit integers for each connection. So that is 64*(30 million + 30 billion) ~ 240 GB of memory just to store the map. This doesn't included other variables (like activation thresholds) for processing.

Back to your question, we have 1 TB drives now. So we probably can do the same thing with a mouse as with the worm with our current technology.

(January 29, 2015 at 12:32 am)FallentoReason Wrote:

(January 29, 2015 at 12:07 am)AFTT47 Wrote: I wonder how far our current technology can take this. Suppose you did this with a higher animal like a mouse. Would you then have a conscious machine?

I don't think that will ever be possible. Subjective experience can't be programmed, because if it can be traced back to a source (the cogs if you will) then it's an objective triviality.

I think a sufficiently complex computer could be used to accurately map and model the human mind, even a specific person/personality. After all, it's all just electro-chemical reactions. Our current digital computers won't be able to manage it, but quantum computing...

Yes, I know that quantum computers have been a long time coming and are still at the fringe of computer development, but once EA figures out how to port their crappy games...