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    Thread: Human Intelligence is an Illusion
Post: RE: Human Intelligence is an Illusion

(December 17, 2018 at 1:51 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Being bound to programming (or even more fundamental, to process flow in architecture) doesn't prohibit a machine from directing it's efforts.   In te...
The__Chameleon Atheism 58 9278 December 17, 2018 at 2:16 pm
    Thread: Human Intelligence is an Illusion
Post: RE: Human Intelligence is an Illusion

The experiments mentioned earlier indicate that decisions are made prior to the consciousness being aware of them. The following statement from the computer analogy however still holds true regardless...
The__Chameleon Atheism 58 9278 December 17, 2018 at 1:47 pm
    Thread: Human Intelligence is an Illusion
Post: RE: Human Intelligence is an Illusion

(December 17, 2018 at 1:07 pm)cognGae Bolga Wrote: Then your contention is that if free will were illusory, then free will would be illusory? I suppose I did use it in another context earlier. In t...
The__Chameleon Atheism 58 9278 December 17, 2018 at 1:28 pm
    Thread: Human Intelligence is an Illusion
Post: RE: Human Intelligence is an Illusion

(December 17, 2018 at 11:03 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: It's an open question whether we are in fact only biological machines.  How does your new analogy acquit your prior arguments about intelligence.  A...
The__Chameleon Atheism 58 9278 December 17, 2018 at 1:00 pm
    Thread: Human Intelligence is an Illusion
Post: RE: Human Intelligence is an Illusion

I've come up with what I believe is the perfect analogy to the idea I'm trying to convey. I'm surprised this didn't occur to me before since I commonly use computer principles to explain ideas. I...
The__Chameleon Atheism 58 9278 December 17, 2018 at 10:08 am
    Thread: Human Intelligence is an Illusion
Post: RE: Human Intelligence is an Illusion

Let me say then instead that in my experience in discussing matters of philosophy with atheists, particularly with respect to matters related to libertarian free will, the way they commonly describe ...
The__Chameleon Atheism 58 9278 December 15, 2018 at 2:22 pm
    Thread: Human Intelligence is an Illusion
Post: RE: Human Intelligence is an Illusion

To refine what is generally meant when Atheists refer to intelligence as opposed to nature I could say that a calculator is deterministic and not intelligent as it can not choose to initiate calculati...
The__Chameleon Atheism 58 9278 December 15, 2018 at 11:31 am
    Thread: Human Intelligence is an Illusion
Post: RE: Human Intelligence is an Illusion

As I stated, the secular idea of "Nature" is something purely deterministic, mechanical, algorithmic, or random. Something bound to a set of arbitrary laws or conditions, or something that arises from...
The__Chameleon Atheism 58 9278 December 15, 2018 at 10:13 am
    Thread: Human Intelligence is an Illusion
Post: RE: Human Intelligence is an Illusion

(December 11, 2018 at 4:29 pm)Mathilda Wrote: (December 11, 2018 at 2:04 pm)The__Chameleon Wrote: If decisions are made in the brain before we are conscious of having made them, then "we" didn't m...
The__Chameleon Atheism 58 9278 December 15, 2018 at 7:20 am
    Thread: Human Intelligence is an Illusion
Post: RE: Human Intelligence is an Illusion

(December 12, 2018 at 6:13 am)ignoramus Wrote: What the difference between the subconscious and conscious thought?  About a fraction of a millisecond of lag. The speed of thought. Everything has a s...
The__Chameleon Atheism 58 9278 December 14, 2018 at 12:11 pm
    Thread: Human Intelligence is an Illusion
Post: RE: Human Intelligence is an Illusion

(December 11, 2018 at 1:08 pm)Mathilda Wrote: (December 11, 2018 at 11:31 am)The__Chameleon Wrote: Imagine a master painter creating a masterpiece one brush stroke at a time. Each movement of his ...
The__Chameleon Atheism 58 9278 December 11, 2018 at 2:04 pm
    Thread: Is tolerance intolerant?
Post: RE: Is tolerance intolerant?

I accept that I am not perfect. I embrace the dawn of a new day. I understand that other people aren't perfect either. I tolerate a cold. I think that understanding and respect are key to social ...
The__Chameleon Philosophy 288 18284 December 11, 2018 at 1:26 pm
    Thread: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Post: RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

Regardless of what arguments are made to suggest that DNA points to a designer, the response will almost always be the "Monkeys with typewriters" argument. Put enough monkeys in a room with typewriter...
The__Chameleon General Science 13834 981241 December 11, 2018 at 12:40 pm
    Thread: Human Intelligence is an Illusion
Post: RE: Human Intelligence is an Illusion

(December 11, 2018 at 11:51 am)Chad32 Wrote: I'm sure it's a mix of both. A lot of what we are comes from things outside of our control, either by nature or nurture. Yet I'm also sure that some thin...
The__Chameleon Atheism 58 9278 December 11, 2018 at 12:16 pm
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Post: Human Intelligence is an Illusion

Imagine a master painter creating a masterpiece one brush stroke at a time. Each movement of his hand meticulously chosen to create the desired effect. Yet, what if each of those motions was chosen fo...
The__Chameleon Atheism 58 9278 December 11, 2018 at 11:31 am