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DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 2:48 am
DNA has a property that cannot be explained by natural processes. Locked securely inside the double helix structure of DNA is a wealth of information in the form of precisely sequenced chemicals that scientists represent with the letters A, C, T, and G. In a written language information is communicated by a precise arrangement of letters. In the same way, the instruction necessary to assemble amino acids into proteins are conveyed by the sequences of chemicals arranged along the spine of the DNA. This chemical code has been called the “Language of Life” and it is the most densely packed and elaborately detailed assembly of information in the known universe.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 2:57 am
(This post was last modified: May 6, 2018 at 9:52 pm by vulcanlogician.)
Welcome to the forums, CDF47. While DNA is certainly complex, many here will argue that the existence of DNA itself does not necessarily indicate design. After all, it is a rather simple thing whose content has become complex after eons of evolution.
I look forward to seeing your defense after others' objections.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 3:10 am
This seems familiar.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 3:22 am
This person is certainly onto something here!
I personally believe that God created birds fully formed
And don't get me started on the eye! That's a no brainer for God... How can anyone argue against concrete evidence like that!
Yep, that's right folks. Zeus created all these things!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 3:28 am
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(May 4, 2018 at 3:22 am)ignoramus Wrote: This person is certainly onto something here!
I personally believe that God created birds fully formed
And don't get me started on the eye! That's a no brainer for God... How can anyone argue against concrete evidence like that!
Yep, that's right folks. Zeus created all these things!
You had me right up until the point where you totally ignored the fundamental truth that Brahma created everything.
(May 4, 2018 at 2:48 am)CDF47 Wrote: DNA has a property that cannot be explained by natural processes. Locked securely inside the double helix structure of DNA is a wealth of information in the form of precisely sequenced chemicals that scientists represent with the letters A, C, T, and G. In a written language information is communicated by a precise arrangement of letters. In the same way, the instruction necessary to assemble amino acids into proteins are conveyed by the sequences of chemicals arranged along the spine of the DNA. This chemical code has been called the “Language of Life” and it is the most densely packed and elaborately detailed assembly of information in the known universe.
Steps to conflation:
1) Define "information" in a way that covers physical/chemical relationships
2) Say that there's therefore a designer, even though the re-definition in (1) doesn't require one
3) Ignore the fact that two different definitions have been used or implied
1) Define any systematic encoding of information as a "language."
2) Since we all know that languages are communication tools, and only sentient beings can communicate with each other, insist that all encoding of information implies sentient beings.
3) Ignore the fact that two different definitions have been used or implied
Let me add another one.
1) Beautiful things are art
2) Sunsets are beautiful
3) Therefore, an artist must have created sunsets. Must be God.
Or this:
1) Chains are a series of interlocking metal rings
2) Proteins form into chains
3) Therefore, proteins are made of metal.
Oh, wait. . . that last one seems flawed somehow.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 3:34 am
(May 4, 2018 at 2:57 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: Welcome to the forums, CDF47. While DNA is certainly complex, many here will argue that the existence of DNA itself does not necessarily indicate design. After all, it is a rather simple thing whose content has become complex after eons of evolution.
I look forward to seeing your defense of others' objections.
Thank you very much for the welcome. I am glad to be here. The problem with that argument is, DNA contains extremely complex and specified information (A, C, T, and G) in a four digit digital code which encodes amino acids to be sequentially placed to create complex proteins which perform different functions in a cell. There are also molecular machines in the cell which are highly specified complex and functional. I could go on all day about this but I will leave it at that for now. It is truly amazing. See the videos below for more information:
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 3:45 am
(This post was last modified: May 4, 2018 at 3:49 am by CDF47.)
(May 4, 2018 at 2:57 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: Welcome to the forums, CDF47. While DNA is certainly complex, many here will argue that the existence of DNA itself does not necessarily indicate design. After all, it is a rather simple thing whose content has become complex after eons of evolution.
I look forward to seeing your defense of others' objections.
Thank you very much for the welcome.
(May 4, 2018 at 3:28 am)bennyboy Wrote: (May 4, 2018 at 3:22 am)ignoramus Wrote: This person is certainly onto something here!
I personally believe that God created birds fully formed
And don't get me started on the eye! That's a no brainer for God... How can anyone argue against concrete evidence like that!
Yep, that's right folks. Zeus created all these things!
You had me right up until the point where you totally ignored the fundamental truth that Brahma created everything.
(May 4, 2018 at 2:48 am)CDF47 Wrote: DNA has a property that cannot be explained by natural processes. Locked securely inside the double helix structure of DNA is a wealth of information in the form of precisely sequenced chemicals that scientists represent with the letters A, C, T, and G. In a written language information is communicated by a precise arrangement of letters. In the same way, the instruction necessary to assemble amino acids into proteins are conveyed by the sequences of chemicals arranged along the spine of the DNA. This chemical code has been called the “Language of Life” and it is the most densely packed and elaborately detailed assembly of information in the known universe.
Steps to conflation:
1) Define "information" in a way that covers physical/chemical relationships
2) Say that there's therefore a designer, even though the re-definition in (1) doesn't require one
3) Ignore the fact that two different definitions have been used or implied
1) Define any systematic encoding of information as a "language."
2) Since we all know that languages are communication tools, and only sentient beings can communicate with each other, insist that all encoding of information implies sentient beings.
3) Ignore the fact that two different definitions have been used or implied
Let me add another one.
1) Beautiful things are art
2) Sunsets are beautiful
3) Therefore, an artist must have created sunsets. Must be God.
Or this:
1) Chains are a series of interlocking metal rings
2) Proteins form into chains
3) Therefore, proteins are made of metal.
Oh, wait. . . that last one seems flawed somehow.
See the videos below for how DNA works. Information always comes from a mind or intelligent being on this earth. Computer codes always come from programmers. Nested in DNA is information which on this earth always comes from an intelligence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8][/url]
DNA also has nested coding, spell checkers, files within folders hierarchical filing systems,...
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 3:51 am
Oh fuck we're doing this song and dance again . I really wish someone would come along with an original subject
And a heap of pointless ID propaganda as well
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 3:55 am
I can't wait to dissect the creator to prove that he was also created by another creator.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 3:56 am
The unique crystaline structure of a simple snowflake is so geometrically perfect, that it obviously has to be man made!
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