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Thread: Abortion is morally wrong
Post: RE: Abortion is morally wrong
| Julia I have been arguing that you must put fetus' into the category of human beings because it is the only consistent application of the definitional, and organizational concept of human beings. As f... |
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June 24, 2014 at 9:47 pm |
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Thread: Abortion is morally wrong
Post: RE: Abortion is morally wrong
| Esquilax, as I have been arguing throughout this thread that in order to be consistent in attributing rights to human beings we must consider fetus' human. My argument is deductive argument and unles... |
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June 24, 2014 at 9:23 pm |
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Thread: Abortion is morally wrong
Post: RE: Abortion is morally wrong
| According to biology.com, Living things are those that display the following characteristics
an organized structure, being made up of a cell or cells
requires energy to survive or sustain existence
a... |
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Arthur123 |
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June 23, 2014 at 10:03 pm |
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Thread: Abortion is morally wrong
Post: RE: Abortion is morally wrong
| Julia, your quotes support my original thesis. A man women or child belonging to the species Homo sapien. Than it shows certain characteristics of how you might distinguish one epistemologically. In ... |
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June 23, 2014 at 9:48 pm |
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Thread: Abortion is morally wrong
Post: RE: Abortion is morally wrong
| I stated my argument, to my knowledge no defeaters have knocked down my thesis. Therefore, it stands.
Cthulhu you do know what objective morality is right? All I'm basing my argument on is that it is... |
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June 23, 2014 at 9:41 pm |
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Thread: Abortion is morally wrong
Post: RE: Abortion is morally wrong
| Once again, Im moving from the assumption that objective morality exists. If we don't assume that, than genital mutilation, murder, ect. is morally permissible. Your question has nothing to do with th... |
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June 23, 2014 at 9:37 pm |
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Thread: Abortion is morally wrong
Post: RE: Abortion is morally wrong
| Thats not an argument chuck, Ive responded to your criticisms in earlier posts. Now all Im getting is (for the most part) personal attacks and false assertions. |
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June 23, 2014 at 9:35 pm |
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Thread: Abortion is morally wrong
Post: RE: Abortion is morally wrong
| Chuck, I am my harshest critic believe me! The arguments thus far presented have not been adequate to defeat my thesis. |
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June 23, 2014 at 9:31 pm |
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Thread: Abortion is morally wrong
Post: RE: Abortion is morally wrong
| The question is a red-hearing. The question has nothing to do with my thesis but is an entirely different discussion altogether. Like I said, Im using the principle that killing an innocent human is w... |
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June 23, 2014 at 9:30 pm |
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Thread: Abortion is morally wrong
Post: RE: Abortion is morally wrong
| You don't need God to decide the human rights of the fetus. My arguments have no reliance upon that |
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June 23, 2014 at 9:17 pm |
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Thread: Abortion is morally wrong
Post: RE: Abortion is morally wrong
| Im not basing my argument on god. Just the moral imperative that killing an innocent human being is wrong. If you deny this than I have no clue why you were arguing bodily rights in the first place |
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June 23, 2014 at 9:14 pm |
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Thread: Abortion is morally wrong
Post: RE: Abortion is morally wrong
| I understand what your saying, this entire thread I've been saying why that idea is misplaced. In order to not exhaust myself in rehashed replies, perhaps re-read some of my posts.
Kindest regards, |
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June 23, 2014 at 9:10 pm |
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Thread: Abortion is morally wrong
Post: RE: Abortion is morally wrong
| My motus ponens is as follows:
1. It is morally impermissible to kill an innocent human being
2. A fetus is an innocent human being
3. Ergo, it is morally impermissible to kill a fetus.
Esquilax, o... |
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Arthur123 |
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June 23, 2014 at 8:51 pm |
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Thread: Abortion is morally wrong
Post: RE: Abortion is morally wrong
| Moral truths, things regarding morality that are true regardless if anyone believes in them or not. Example, the Nazis were morally wrong perpetuating the Holocaust even if everyone in Germany thought... |
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June 22, 2014 at 2:21 pm |
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Thread: Reasons for belief
Post: RE: Reasons for belief
| Fair enough. However its different if someone asserts something is false. |
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June 22, 2014 at 2:18 pm |
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Thread: Reasons for belief
Post: RE: Reasons for belief
| Bad Wolf, atheists believe that their lack of belief is justified. No? |
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June 22, 2014 at 2:10 pm |
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Thread: Reasons for belief
Post: RE: Reasons for belief
| Cinjin, so you find deism to be true? He is just an asshole? |
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June 22, 2014 at 2:02 pm |
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Thread: Reasons for belief
Post: RE: Reasons for belief
| Beliefe in a lack of belief makes sense because you believe your lack of belief is reasonable. But this is a non-important point anyway. Boru, it seems to me, that if atheism is held because of no ev... |
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June 22, 2014 at 1:55 pm |
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Thread: Abortion is morally wrong
Post: RE: Abortion is morally wrong
| Esquilax, I've already discussed the difference between ontology and functionality. Mistaking what that thing can do with what that thing actually is. As for the bundle of cells, the zygote is actual... |
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June 22, 2014 at 1:42 pm |
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Thread: Abortion is morally wrong
Post: RE: Abortion is morally wrong
| What I was showing is that there is a one-to-one correspondence between a fetus and an adult human and what makes us human is our genetics, biological continuity, and categorization of Homo sapien . |
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June 22, 2014 at 1:31 pm |
