Argument from Conscience

[Homeless Nutter]

And what exactly were the fundamental views of the Third Reich, Stalin regime and the RedGuard rebellion?  I find your statement demonstrably fallacious

Third Reich? Really? Hey, genius - how about learning some history some time?

 "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.."  A.Hitler, "Mein Kampf"



(It means "God with us", in case you're wondering and it was on Nazi uniforms)

You're welcome. Happy to help.

[Whateverist]

But it is a natural mistake to think only good people think they have god on their side. After all, when you yourself are good .. uh, oh.

[Neo-Scholastic]

And what exactly were the fundamental views of the Third Reich, Stalin regime and the RedGuard rebellion?  I find your statement demonstrably fallacious

Third Reich? Really? Hey, genius - how about learning some history some time?

 "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.."  A.Hitler, "Mein Kampf"



(It means "God with us", in case you're wondering and it was on Nazi uniforms)

You're welcome. Happy to help.

So you bekieve the propaganda of a corrupt and twisted ideology. Not surprising. But can you do the same for Stalin and Mao...(crickets).

[LostLocke]

So you bekieve the propaganda of a corrupt and twisted ideology. Not surprising. But can you do the same for Stalin and Mao...(crickets).

So, if an evil regime claims to be Christian it's just propaganda, but if they claim to be atheist it's legit? Is that what you're getting at?

[Homeless Nutter]

So you bekieve the propaganda of a corrupt and twisted ideology. [...]

No. You believe the propaganda of a corrupt and twisted ideology - called "christianity".
And hey - do you know that the concordat between 3rd Reich and Vatican signed in 1933 (one year after Hitler was made chouncelor) is still in force today? Look it up. I guess Vatican believes in Hitler's propaganda even now.

[...]But can you do the same for Stalin and Mao...[...]

Yes, I can. But first - please, provide some proof that 3rd Reich was not a christian nation. I'm not going to waste time explaining history and politics to you, if all you're going to do in reply is make condescending and unsubstantiated remarks.

(crickets)

[Longhorn]

The difference is that leaders of atheistic regimes did not kill in the name of atheism specifically. Their atheism was not the reason for their brutality, which can't be said about the crusades for example, or the inquisition. In both cases, it is clearly god inspired violence.

[noahide]

The difference is that leaders of atheistic regimes did not kill in the name of atheism specifically.

You never heard of persecutions of orthodox christians in Lenin's Russia?

[Kingpin]

So you bekieve the propaganda of a corrupt and twisted ideology. [...]

No. You believe the propaganda of a corrupt and twisted ideology - called "christianity".
And hey - do you know that the concordat between 3rd Reich and Vatican signed in 1933 (one year after Hitler was made chouncelor) is still in force today? Look it up. I guess Vatican believes in Hitler's propaganda even now.

[...]But can you do the same for Stalin and Mao...[...]

Yes, I can. But first - please, provide some proof that 3rd Reich was not a christian nation. I'm not going to waste time explaining history and politics to you, if all you're going to do in reply is make condescending and unsubstantiated remarks.

(crickets)

Do you completely ignore what Hitler wrote in his Mein Kampf our what his closest comrade, Joseph Goebells said about Hitler hating Christianity.

At the time of his rise to power the Christian church was very prominent in Germany and Hitler signed the Concordat with the Catholic Church as his first move of democracy. He played the church, violated the Concordat and tried to replace it. Some historians even state that they believe his ultimate goal was to eradicate Christianity from Germany.

However even with all of that said, just because something is done in the name of something does not mean it is of that something. The same for the inquisition, crusades etc. they are not Christian.

[Homeless Nutter]

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However even with all of that said, just because something is done in the name of something does not mean it is of that something. The same for the inquisition, crusades etc. they are not Christian.

Bullshit. But then again - I didn't really expect anything else.

[Redbeard The Pink]

No. You believe the propaganda of a corrupt and twisted ideology - called "christianity".
And hey - do you know that the concordat between 3rd Reich and Vatican signed in 1933 (one year after Hitler was made chouncelor) is still in force today? Look it up. I guess Vatican believes in Hitler's propaganda even now.


Yes, I can. But first - please, provide some proof that 3rd Reich was not a christian nation. I'm not going to  waste time explaining history and politics to you, if all you're going to do in reply is make condescending  and unsubstantiated remarks.

(crickets)

Do you completely ignore what Hitler wrote in his Mein Kampf our what his closest comrade, Joseph Goebells said about Hitler hating Christianity.

At the time of his rise to power the Christian church was very prominent in Germany and Hitler signed the Concordat with the Catholic Church as his first move of democracy. He played the church, violated the Concordat and tried to replace it. Some historians even state that they believe his ultimate goal was to eradicate Christianity from Germany.  

However even with all of that said, just because something is done in the name of something does not mean it is of that something. The same for the inquisition, crusades etc. they are not Christian.

And the True Scotsman finally lifts his kilt...and nobody is impressed.

The real problem is that Gaud isn't down here telling us which ones are the "true christians" and which ones aren't, so virtually anybody can point at someone else and say "Your'e not a true christian!" for any discrepancy in belief. They could say it about you, in fact. Sure, maybe the bible is supposed to tell us, but nobody can agree on the biblical criteria for true christianity, either; in fact, most if not all violent religious groups have scriptural support for their acts. You might say that they have an incomplete theology because it doesn't include peace, but they could turn around and say that you have an incomplete theology because it doesn't include war. This is one of the primary problems with using a behavioral standard that contradicts itself so grievously.