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blahman212 · November 13, 2015 at 10:28 pm

France is in a terrible situation in which no of us ever wish to hear about. Bombings and hostage situations have created turmoil, but as of now (2:30am GMT) the public as a whole is unsure who committed these awful crimes. Is it fair to assume, then, the identity of them? That is, can we assume that it was ISIS, or another Muslim extremist group, due to the terrible actions they have committed? This isn't a argument saying they are responsible for this, as I think previous evidence could be quite convincing, but more that the Zeitgeist as the moment seems to be that an act of suspected terrorism is due to Islamic extremists. Could that be considered a reasonable statement?

**Silver** · November 13, 2015 at 10:38 pm

Completely lost, since I rarely follow the news.

blahman212 · November 13, 2015 at 10:46 pm

I understand, it's not interesting to everyone.
The point of discussion was if it's sensible to assume a violent attack on a large scale is due to Islamic Extremists.

**Silver** · November 13, 2015 at 10:54 pm

I have caught up somewhat with the story. Did a search.

Assumptions are never good, and I believe any news story would understand that.

Do they not always state that at this time we are not certain who may have been behind the attack?

blahman212 · November 13, 2015 at 11:00 pm

That always seems to be the opinion of the larger broadcasters, but I've seen it from smaller outlets and I have seen a wave of people giving their personal opinion that they are certain it is a Muslim Extremist group. Would you agree that it's damaging to say that, or is that the reaction these groups want?

ignoramus · November 13, 2015 at 11:14 pm

Isn't reasonable to make educated assumptions?
Pretty sure it ain't Greenpeace.

**Silver** · November 13, 2015 at 11:16 pm

It is damaging to make any assumption without the facts.

Dystopia · November 13, 2015 at 11:19 pm

They tweeted and took responsibility themselves. They claimed it. Do we need more evidence? Additionally, looking at the first reports it's predictable because (1) They were using bombs (2) And Kalashnikovs. Is there any other terrorist group that does attacks in France and uses this as frequently? I'm pretty sure other terrorist groups use Kalashnikov rifles, but in Paris it's not hard to make a rational guess. We don't need 100% proof for it.

ignoramus · November 13, 2015 at 11:19 pm

Science is full of educated assumptions.

**Silver** · November 13, 2015 at 11:24 pm

(November 13, 2015 at 11:19 pm)ignoramus Wrote: Science is full of educated assumptions.

Science makes a hypothesis, which is not to be confused with assuming.

Learn your science.

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