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Political compass test
#41
RE: Political compass test
Ryft Wrote:Thank goodness almost none of you with disastrous left-leaning economic ideologies are anywhere near the authoritarian end of the spectrum, meaning you wouldn't want any of them implemented and enforced at the federal level.

{stands beside Adrian, looking nervously at these folk}
I prefer the good old european socialism, it worked for now and it still works, the problem with it, is the influence of the american "Wild West" capitalism

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#42
RE: Political compass test
If you want social, scientific, and technological advance, you have to go with capitalism. Although I'm sure America wouldn't mind if European socialism stuck to its political and economic ideologies, abandoning the capitalist experiment and leaving America to dominate.
Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when
called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason.
(Oscar Wilde)
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#43
RE: Political compass test
Ryft Wrote:If you want social, scientific, and technological advance, you have to go with capitalism.
Why? Wouldn't it be better if advancement were driven by betterment of life rather than profit.
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#44
RE: Political compass test
muhtesem insan;113498 Wrote:
Ryft Wrote:If you want social, scientific, and technological advance, you have to go with capitalism.
Why? Wouldn't it be better if advancement were driven by betterment of life rather than profit.

Call me cynical but: Realistically that won't happen.

I'm only confident with the result of my Libertarian (as opposed to Authoritarian) side of the test: I never intended to end up left wing economically :S (I guess, at least I am near the centre and not far left wing).

I am not political. I understand that Capitalism is realistic and I don't know why I ended up left-wing Economically.
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#45
RE: Political compass test
DoubtVsFaith Wrote:
muhtesem insan;113498 Wrote:
Ryft Wrote:If you want social, scientific, and technological advance, you have to go with capitalism.
Why? Wouldn't it be better if advancement were driven by betterment of life rather than profit.

Call me cynical but: Realistically that won't happen.

I'm only confident with the result of my Libertarian (as opposed to Authoritarian) side of the test: I never intended to end up left wing economically :S (I guess, at least I am near the centre and not far left wing).

I am not political. I understand that Capitalism is realistic and I don't know why I ended up left-wing Economically.
You're right if people are inherently evil. But I do think we're what we're shaped.
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#46
RE: Political compass test
We are what we're shaped, but our previous character shapes us into our later character. Well, that along with circumstances (although, we're not separate from out circumstances: We're part of the universe and not just in it).
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#47
RE: Political compass test
Economic Left/Right: -6.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.67
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Ryft Wrote:Thank goodness almost none of you with disastrous left-leaning economic ideologies are anywhere near the authoritarian end of the spectrum, meaning you wouldn't want any of them implemented and enforced at the federal level.

{stands beside Adrian, looking nervously at these folk}

Who said we didn't?
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925

Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
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#48
RE: Political compass test
muhtesem insan;113498 Wrote:Why? Wouldn't it be better if advancement were driven by betterment of life rather than profit.

"Betterment of life" doesn't pay the bills, which these advances require. You need to generate revenue to meet expenses. And those who participate in a capitalist economy can amass wealth that enables them to work toward betterment of life (e.g., Sean Penn).
Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when
called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason.
(Oscar Wilde)
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#49
RE: Political compass test
Ryft Wrote:"Betterment of life" doesn't pay the bills, which these advances require. You need to generate revenue to meet expenses. And those who participate in a capitalist economy can amass wealth that enables them to work toward betterment of life (e.g., Sean Penn).

Yeah... about that... how many of those marvelous scientific advances were also due to the largely public funding done by congress - such as through NASA?
Human ingenuity is a human trait - not a result of an economic system.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925

Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
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#50
RE: Political compass test
Eh.... You could argue that much of the 'green' movement is shaped by public opinion - the people who through capitalism have the money to buy the products that companies are selling to cater to them, hopefully bettering the environment and therefore one aspect of quality of life...without gov't involvement.
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