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[LadyForCamus]

I have never read any evidences supporting any of the statements mentioned so far.

You have zero evidence for human empathy? Maybe you are the sociopath! *runs*

[Little lunch]

From a theist point of view, why not just kill all the babies before they sin so they can all go to heaven?

Because, from a theist point of view, the deity prohibits it and everybody must obey the deity.

Yeah, I was just trying to say something as stupid as what you're saying.

[Minimalist]

If you are an atheist, can you give me a reason (other than legal issues) of why this person should not be killed as to free more resources (money, time, hospital space, etc) for the rest of the community?

Nope.

For that matter, I can't see continuing to waste oxygen on a fuckhead like you, either.

[truth_seeker]

I would be impacted by their death, and I care, deeply, about them, even though they are strangers.

I see. Thanks Jehanne.
This is the only self-consistent statement so far from an atheistic point of view.

Any other possible explanations?

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By the way, just for the record, the scenario I posted completely appalls me.
But I just wanted to learn more about the evidence that other world views provide to support their case.

[c172]

Hello guys

I want your opinion on the following scenario.

Lets assume there was a completely disabled human being who needs major help through all daily activities.
This human being is under the following condition:

• He/she has no job whatsoever
  
• He/she has zero friends and zero family members
  

If you are an atheist, can you give me a reason (other than legal issues) of why this person should not be killed as to free more resources (money, time, hospital space, etc) for the rest of the community?

Holy goddamn shit!! 

I was born with spina bifida (go to this link if you care to educate yourself *refrains from holding breath on the matter* http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/spinabifida/facts.html ). I use crutches to ambulate. 

I have no job whatsoever. I am on a pension. Partially probably my fault (I was never great at job interviews), and partially definitely not my fault (disabled people are discriminated against, at least here in America). I have also gone through much of my life with zero friends. Again, partially me as a person probably looking in the wrong places, but also able-bodies who sometimes want nothing at all to do with a person on crutches or in a wheelchair.

We're human beings, just like gays, blacks, women (some folks subscribe to all categories aforementioned I'm sure). You provide a compelling (but completely disturbing) argument. Jobs are not the only way a person can contribute to society. Look at all the able-bodied people there are that get onto pensions and other such services and don't do anything to wean themselves off even though they actually can. Nobody (including me) is suggesting they be killed. 

TBH, I have not gotten through this thread. I have only read the OP. I may add more when I do get through the thread.


*wow*

[truth_seeker]

Holy goddamn shit!! 

I was born with spina bifida (go to this link if you care to educate yourself *refrains from holding breath on the matter* http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/spinabifida/facts.html ). I use crutches to ambulate. 

I have no job whatsoever. I am on a pension. Partially probably my fault (I was never great at job interviews), and partially definitely not my fault (disabled people are discriminated against, at least here in America). I have also gone through much of my life with zero friends. Again, partially me as a person probably looking in the wrong places, but also able-bodies who sometimes want nothing at all to do with a person on crutches or in a wheelchair.

We're human beings, just like gays, blacks, women (some folks subscribe to all categories aforementioned I'm sure. You provide a compelling (but completely disturbing) argument. Jobs are not the only way a person can contribute to society. Look at all the able-bodied people there are that get onto pensions and other such services and don't do anything to wean themselves off even though they actually can. Nobody (including me) is suggesting they be killed. 

TBH, I have not gotten through this thread. I have only read the OP. I may add more when I do get through the thread.


*wow*

I feel you buddy   ...
The scenario I posted completely appalls me, but I just wanted to learn more about the evidence that other world views provide to support their case. Especially the Darwinian-heavy form of atheism.

[brewer]

Hello guys

I want your opinion on the following scenario.

Lets assume there was a completely disabled human being who needs major help through all daily activities.
This human being is under the following condition:

• He/she has no job whatsoever
  
• He/she has zero friends and zero family members
  

If you are an atheist, can you give me a reason (other than legal issues) of why this person should not be killed as to free more resources (money, time, hospital space, etc) for the rest of the community?

With the limited conditions that you posed in this question I see no reason why this person should be killed. None of those conditions warrants death. None of those conditions limits them from contributing to society. My conclusion is that you are either a troll or very, very stupid. More than likely both.

[c172]

I fell you buddy <3 ...
The scenario I posted completely appalls me, but I just wanted to learn more about the evidence that other world views provide to support their case. Especially the Darwinian-heavy form of atheism.

I'm not your buddy.

Why do you need evidence? Sometimes I wonder how Christians can live with themselves (at least the far right-wingers), but if they're happy, then fine. I can avoid them or engage them as need be.

[KevinM1]

What is a Darwinian-heavy form of atheism, do you have evidence that it's actually a thing, and do you have evidence that the atheists here fit that category if it does exist? Or are you just talking out of your ass?

[truth_seeker]

I fell you buddy <3 ...
The scenario I posted completely appalls me, but I just wanted to learn more about the evidence that other world views provide to support their case. Especially the Darwinian-heavy form of atheism.

I'm not your buddy.

Why do you need evidence? Sometimes I wonder how Christians can live with themselves (at least the far right-wingers), but if they're happy, then fine. I can avoid them or engage them as need be.

I apologize if I offended you, not my intention.

Evidence is not needed! Exactly my point!
I was just illustrating that relying only and exclusively on evidence for every mental construct (such as empathy, in this case) is a futile, fatal, nihilistic effort.
Evidence definitely has its place, but so is an innate sense of morality that you can't provide evidence for.

So the conclusion is that: not every mental construct needs evidence.