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Transexuals
RE: Transexuals
(April 17, 2016 at 8:25 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:
(April 17, 2016 at 6:02 pm)Expired Wrote: Ok, we all know you have a thing for CL, I say what I see, that's all you will ever get from me. keep being liberal towards these nuts and lets carry on the bigotry far far into the future.

Um, the reason I respect a female member of this little internet community is because I "have a thing for" her? 

Get the fuck outta here. (Seriously, would you mind buggering off?)

You attacked someone simply because they're a member of a religion you don't like. To my mind, that makes you as bad as any Christian Evangelical fundamentalist on this planet, and for the same basic reason.

If the only reason you can come up with for why a guy would respect a woman is a crush, then you have some serious issues to work out.

Fucking dead right I have issues. Well fucking spotted.
RE: Transexuals
(April 21, 2016 at 6:01 pm)Expired Wrote:
(April 17, 2016 at 8:25 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Um, the reason I respect a female member of this little internet community is because I "have a thing for" her? 

Get the fuck outta here. (Seriously, would you mind buggering off?)

You attacked someone simply because they're a member of a religion you don't like. To my mind, that makes you as bad as any Christian Evangelical fundamentalist on this planet, and for the same basic reason.

If the only reason you can come up with for why a guy would respect a woman is a crush, then you have some serious issues to work out.

Fucking dead right I have issues. Well fucking spotted.

Calm down..
RE: Transexuals
(April 21, 2016 at 6:14 pm)Bella Morte Wrote:
(April 21, 2016 at 6:01 pm)Expired Wrote: Fucking dead right I have issues. Well fucking spotted.

Calm down..

I can never take good advice..........It's my downfall. Heart
RE: Transexuals
(April 21, 2016 at 12:26 am)SteelCurtain Wrote:
(April 21, 2016 at 12:05 am)Sterben Wrote:        Learning and understand a issue always should be considered in the matter of policy, if your making public policy you need to consult professionals who deal with the issues on a everyday basis. As a child I hated sports and still do, that's cause I was taught it was a unneeded venue for men and woman to demonstrate there superiority over others. I still hold the same opinion to this day. As a society we do need to respect woman more and get rid of terms like "Sissy,nancyboy, and no-homo". These words probably will never go away, and terms like faggot, cunt, fag, and gay will never be able be uses properly again cause of society's twists on the words. As a child I was also taught to have the up most respect people who deserve respect. My parents raised quite differently, I was not allowed to play sports either my sister, and to this day I thank them to this day for not letting me.

What? Dude, I really have a hard time following you. Is English not your first language? If this says what I think it says, what does that have to do with what I said, the last part of which I left quoted? That part, believe it or not, was directed specifically at you.

         I do apologizes for the lack of grammar on that post, English is my first language and I was a little buzzed when I was typing it.
     “A man isn't tiny or giant enough to defeat anything” Yukio Mishima


RE: Transexuals
(April 21, 2016 at 12:13 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: If your job is a public figure for a media organization, all of your media platforms are representative of your employer.

If you sign on to be public figure, sorry, you don't get to do this. Also, this is like the third time Schilling has done this. Last time he compared Muslims to Nazis.

ESPN is owned by Disney. If you start to affect a company's bottom line, they should be able to fire you.

       I'm fully sober now haha, and I agree with you. If you are employed by a company and are considered a public figure, the comments you make are your responsibility and yours alone. "Lose lips sinks ships" A quote my father always says to me.
     “A man isn't tiny or giant enough to defeat anything” Yukio Mishima


RE: Transexuals
(April 11, 2016 at 3:17 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I do agree that it's a mental disorder, but I still think they should be legally allowed to do whatever they want to their own bodies. It's not really my business if someone chooses to amputate their penis/boobs, and I'm not going to make a case about it or treat them differently because of it.  

Do I think this is the healthiest way of dealing with the disorder? I admit I'm no expert, but just from a personal common sense type perspective, it just seems to me like the healthier approach would be to treat the disorder through therapy/etc and help these people accept themselves for who they are. Rather than taking synthetic hormones and undergoing extensive surgeries to try to change.

Nonetheless, not my judgement to make on how another person chooses to live their life. My job is to love.

CL, "love" as your bible tells you is not anything to do with reality. It is a candyland utopia. Now let me give you the realistic way one can "love" having nothing to do with old books and bad claims.

First off, no, you don't have to "love" all 7 billion humans, we will NOT always like each other or only say nice things about each other. No, that is not a call to force anyone out of existence, just to say "love" is a loaded word when most humans mean "I'll say I love you unconditionally" and that sounds nice but most people mean "as long as you accept your place in the social pecking order".

The way I put it is, I know my species has a dark side, capable of great cruelty, and that part I do not have to "love". I don't put it that way in any case. I use the word "value" and yes, we should ALWAYS value empathy and non violence and human rights. But we do not have to value claims outside the right to make the claim. And especially claims that lead to oppressive laws or violence to others who are not violent.

I VALUE my species empathy yes, we can do very great and compassionate things for each other. But that is not a result of magic or sky heros, that behavior is in us. At the same time unfortunately, we also can be very physically cruel to the point of mob murder, state murder and genocide, and no, I don't love those ideas or value those ideas that lead to those things.

I value, for example the empathy of Martin Luther King Jr, but that does not make his Christian god real. But there are also others who have and still do, use that same bible to be dicks to blacks, and no, I don't "love" or as I say "value" those interpretations that lead to harm to others.

I value Ann Frank's empathy, but that also does not make Yahweh a real god, nor does that justify other Jews even today, who use those same writings to justify holding airline jets hostage because sexist dicks refuse to sit next to women.

I also value the empathy of Malala for standing up for women's education, but I do not value the interpretations of the Quran that lead to other assholes trying to murder her.

Now, my position is all religions have no bases in reality and are nothing but made up excuses humans invent to set up social pecking orders. BUT, that doesn't give me a right to set up a godless utopia myself. My duty is to my species and non violence, but I have no duty to remain silent when bad claims lead to bad acts.

I value non violence. I value even the right to say things that piss me off. But I will never value ideas that lead to oppression. I value my species empathy, I don't however "love" everything an individual may claim, nor do I have to.
RE: Transexuals
(April 22, 2016 at 4:42 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(April 11, 2016 at 3:17 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I do agree that it's a mental disorder, but I still think they should be legally allowed to do whatever they want to their own bodies. It's not really my business if someone chooses to amputate their penis/boobs, and I'm not going to make a case about it or treat them differently because of it.  

Do I think this is the healthiest way of dealing with the disorder? I admit I'm no expert, but just from a personal common sense type perspective, it just seems to me like the healthier approach would be to treat the disorder through therapy/etc and help these people accept themselves for who they are. Rather than taking synthetic hormones and undergoing extensive surgeries to try to change.

Nonetheless, not my judgement to make on how another person chooses to live their life. My job is to love.

CL, "love" as your bible tells you is not anything to do with reality. It is a candyland utopia. Now let me give you the realistic way one can "love" having nothing to do with old books and bad claims.

First off, no, you don't have to "love" all 7 billion humans, we will NOT always like each other or only say nice things about each other. No, that is not a call to force anyone out of existence, just to say "love" is a loaded word when most humans mean "I'll say I love you unconditionally" and that sounds nice but most people mean "as long as you accept your place in the social pecking order".

The way I put it is, I know my species has a dark side, capable of great cruelty, and that part I do not have to "love". I don't put it that way in any case. I use the word "value" and yes, we should ALWAYS value empathy and non violence and human rights. But we do not have to value claims outside the right to make the claim. And especially claims that lead to oppressive laws or violence to others who are not violent.

I VALUE my species empathy yes, we can do very great and compassionate things for each other. But that is not a result of magic or sky heros, that behavior is in us. At the same time unfortunately, we also can be very physically cruel to the point of mob murder, state murder and genocide, and no, I don't love those ideas or value those ideas that lead to those things.

I value, for example the empathy of Martin Luther King Jr, but that does not make his Christian god real. But there are also others who have and still do, use that same bible to be dicks to blacks, and no, I don't "love" or as I say "value" those interpretations that lead to harm to others.

I value Ann Frank's empathy, but that also does not make Yahweh a real god, nor does that justify other Jews even today, who use those same writings to justify holding airline jets hostage because sexist dicks refuse to sit next to women.

I also value the empathy of Malala for standing up for women's education, but I do not value the interpretations of the Quran that lead to other assholes trying to murder her.

Now, my position is all religions have no bases in reality and are nothing but made up excuses humans invent to set up social pecking orders. BUT, that doesn't give me a right to set up a godless utopia myself. My duty is to my species and non violence, but I have no duty to remain silent when bad claims lead to bad acts.

I value non violence. I value even the right to say things that piss me off. But I will never value ideas that lead to oppression. I value my species empathy, I don't however "love" everything an individual may claim, nor do I have to.
         Well said, empathy is something the human race lacks greatly in. A greater question that seems lacking of an answer is, when is empathy deserved?
     “A man isn't tiny or giant enough to defeat anything” Yukio Mishima


RE: Transexuals
When isn't it deserved? I don't think it's something that needs to be deserved.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
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RE: Transexuals
Empathy is something I can't even help feeling even if it did have to be deserved.

I don't think anything needs to be deserved. Not even respect, I think respect can only be lost.

Trust needs to be earned, but that's different to deserve. It's unwise to trust someone you don't know yet, they need to earn it in the sense that they need to show they're trustworthy because you don't know them yet -- it's not like they don't deserve it yet.

So I'm just saying, I don't think anything really is deserved. No one deserves anything -- but some things definitely should encouraged with praise and people should be held accountable for their actions.

Fuck retributivism, consequentialism FTW.
RE: Transexuals
(April 22, 2016 at 9:13 pm)Losty Wrote: When isn't it deserved? I don't think it's something that needs to be deserved.

          Would you feel empathy for someone who assaulted a loved one? Would you feel anger or pity when your in the court room, having to watch as a good defense attorney works the room? When the moment finally arrives and that not guilty verdict is announced, what happens to your humanism then?
     “A man isn't tiny or giant enough to defeat anything” Yukio Mishima







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