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 RE: To circumcise or not to circumcise?
June 10, 2016 at 1:39 pm
(This post was last modified: June 10, 2016 at 1:40 pm by c172.)
*posting hack job. How appropriate.*
Sorry. Move along.
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I'm very glad it wasn't done to me, too.
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Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists. Index of useful threads and discussions Index of my best videos Quickstart guide to the forum  (June 10, 2016 at 1:29 pm)c172 Wrote: We do many things without a minor's consent. I was given bowlcuts as a kid without my consent. I looked atrocious. But it wasn't my call. Umm...there's a huge difference between cutting hair which is painless and it grows back and cutting genitals which is not painless and is doesn't grow back. Also, it's understandable for your mother to want your hair to look however she thinks is nice...I don't understand why she would want your penis to look nice. (June 10, 2016 at 1:32 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(June 10, 2016 at 1:27 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: It is an unrequired, quite major cosmetic procedure you are thinking of inflicting on a minor without its consent. If the kid wants a cut Pee Pee when its old enough to make that decision then he should get it done, the same as deciding to get a piercing or tattoo. But it should be his choice not yours. Actually adults can get anesthesia for it while babies cannot.  (June 10, 2016 at 1:39 pm)c172 Wrote: *posting hack job. How appropriate.* What a *posting hack job.?
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(June 10, 2016 at 1:41 pm)Losty Wrote: Actually adults can get anesthesia for it while babies cannot. That's actually a pretty good point. Still, this strong feeling expressed by my fellow atheists makes me wonder if it's more the religious nature of most circumcisions that makes atheists feel so strongly against it.
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(June 10, 2016 at 1:43 pm)madog Wrote:(June 10, 2016 at 1:39 pm)c172 Wrote: *posting hack job. How appropriate.* I just done goofed on quoting something and had to abandon the post (which I don't think I can delete).
"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan
 (June 10, 2016 at 1:40 pm)Losty Wrote:(June 10, 2016 at 1:29 pm)c172 Wrote: We do many things without a minor's consent. I was given bowlcuts as a kid without my consent. I looked atrocious. But it wasn't my call. Can't answer for all the other mothers out there, but to me personally it's for the same reasons as everything else. If I lived in a country where no one got it done, I wouldn't get my son's done, either, because in that case it wouldn't matter. But it's much more common than not here in the US and I wouldn't want my son to feel insecure or embarrassed about his penis looking different from the other boys'. As I said, if I was a dude (assuming I'd be living in the US), I would hope my parents would do that for me while I was a baby. But to each their own. Not saying anyone is a bad mom for not doing it to their kid. We each do what we think is best for our own child.
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-walsh (June 10, 2016 at 1:41 pm)Losty Wrote:(June 10, 2016 at 1:32 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Personally if I was a dude I'd want my parents to have opted for me to get it done while I was still little and too young to remember or understand what was going on. I imagine a circumcision must be quite traumatic for a grown man to get done. We used emla cream when we did it.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh (June 10, 2016 at 1:44 pm)c172 Wrote:(June 10, 2016 at 1:41 pm)Losty Wrote: Actually adults can get anesthesia for it while babies cannot. You're cutting off a highly sensitive part of your child's penis so it will look more attractive to you. That's the objection. Most people in America don't do it for religious reasons. My objections are many but none have to do with religion. Why do parents care how their son's penis looks? Why is it ok to cut off part of someone's body that they can never get back when they're too little to object. Why is it ok to chop of the most sensitive part of a boys genitals, but not ok to chop of a girl's clitoris? Why is it ok for parents to have cosmetic surgery on a boy's genitals but not any other body parts? Why do you not advocate for nose jobs for babies? Why is this not something a person should have a right to choose for himself? |
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