Muslim Imam calls for Homosexual death 3 weeks before pulse nigh club shooting

[Mister Agenda]

"Nuupe, just some shmo with google and a desire to know the truth despite how a specific arguement works out.. It seems you pick a position and have to defend it at all costs. I simply identify truth and follow where ever it leads." --Drich

Unless it leads to Sunni Islam, apparently.

[Mister Agenda]

You won't find 'believe Mohammed is the final prophet' in the Five Pillars of Islam.

Seeings how you first point failed, I do not see what difference the second point makes...

Since it turns out my first point succeeded, do you see what difference the second point makes now?

[Mister Agenda]

You really think a religious orthodoxy can control 1.5 billion adherents?

Never heard of the Dark ages huh? Well, you see.. the dark ages is where the catholic church or 'orthodoxy controlled just about the whole world' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_demography
At it's peek Just what control the church had in Europe= out to a billion people. What is important here is the percentage of control, and to that end Islam is going through it's dark age now.

The population of Europe then was maybe 30 million, or about 3% of a billion people. There were only a few hundred million people in the whole world.

[Mister Agenda]

That none of the organizations I mentioned are composed mostly of Sunnis? That 'kill the apostate' crap may fly in Saudi Arabia or Yemen; but not in Muslim majority countries like Albania, Bosnia, Turkey (or ex-Soviet 'Turkic' countries like Kazakhstan), or Morocco. And many of those fighting ISIS are Sunnis.

You are right... many of the non sunni control countries do not have the 'kill the apostate' laws on the books, but the hard core sunni countries do.. wonder why that is..

You can't promote the idea of Sunni Islam as a monolithic, tightly controlled force and retreat to differentiating 'hard core' and 'soft core' Sunnis when it suits you without inherently conceding that Sunnis AREN'T a monolithic, tightly controlled force. They're just a bunch of people who are trying to be faithful to the religion they were raised in, and what form that takes has a lot to do with their disposition and circumstances.

[Mister Agenda]

You better get in touch with Sunni High Command and tell them to get their act together. You know those Kurds so famous for fighting ISIS? Mostly Sunnis. Turkish forces? Mostly Sunnis. It's almost like no one is really in charge of Sunni Muslims.

How is this any different than when "christian Nazis" mowed down the rest of europe (which were also Christian?)
Or how the South turned on the North in our civil war or how the colonists turned on Britain in the revolutionary war.
The reason the Kurds fight is because they are a people with out a country (37 millionish.) ISIS like the Nazi's with the jews are fighting against the kurds, to exterminate a problem as they see it. (for religious reasons/kill the apostates) It's because Part of that problem is how the kurds do not hold tightly to their religion first. They are kurds first where as the Islamic state Islam comes first. this makes their practice of sunni islam hertical according to isis. The Islamic state would also see many Sunni muslims living in the west as also being apostate and deserving of death. (especially those who are critical of their terrorist actions.) Which again is why most will not speak out against it unless they feel threatened.

It's different because no one claims that the Nazi Christians were just like the other Christians. You're the one who claimed the Sunnis are centralized and marching in lock step on pain of death. You're making my point for me, Drich. Thank you.