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RE: Is contemporary atheism sufficient to sustain a civilisation?
August 19, 2016 at 9:19 am
The guy that did this video is an anti-multiculturalist and anti-feminist.
It seems to me that he thinks that the logical thinking of atheism has led to society becoming weak in the face of lesser civilised cultures and that those cultures will take over western civilisation.
In my opinion it is the other way round, that atheism is spreading like a disease through religious and non-logical thinking areas of the world.
I also think that individualism and creativity leak through the cracks of religion, rather than being promoted by it.
I do believe that civilisation can be sustained without religion and, because of these times of mass tele-communication, it could also do without borders, eventually.
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RE: Is contemporary atheism sufficient to sustain a civilisation?
August 19, 2016 at 9:27 am
(August 19, 2016 at 9:19 am)Little lunch Wrote: The guy that did this video is an anti-multiculturalist and anti-feminist.
Don't forget that this is a stoner thread. And stoner takes his information from one source only. The extreme right covered from head to toe in tinfoil. So, along these lines, I wonder what you expected that video to be.
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RE: Is contemporary atheism sufficient to sustain a civilisation?
August 19, 2016 at 9:28 am
It's not simply sufficient, it's preferable to any other alternative.
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RE: Is contemporary atheism sufficient to sustain a civilisation?
August 19, 2016 at 2:56 pm
(August 19, 2016 at 9:28 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: It's not simply sufficient, it's preferable to any other alternative.
So I'm gathering atheism has nothing positive (proscriptive) to offer the continuity of civilization. But it does have a negative contribution in the attempt to defused religious influences that would destroy civilization. Like a rudder using drag to steer a ship.
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RE: Is contemporary atheism sufficient to sustain a civilisation?
August 19, 2016 at 3:10 pm
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(August 19, 2016 at 2:56 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: So I'm gathering atheism has nothing positive (proscriptive) to offer the continuity of civilization.
Atheism in itself has nothing to offer. Education has. Hope you get the distinction, since it's that important.
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RE: Is contemporary atheism sufficient to sustain a civilisation?
August 19, 2016 at 3:18 pm
(August 19, 2016 at 3:10 pm)abaris Wrote: (August 19, 2016 at 2:56 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: So I'm gathering atheism has nothing positive (proscriptive) to offer the continuity of civilization.
Atheism in itself has nothing to offer. Education has. Hope you get the distinction, since it's that important.
Oh I do, just exploring the conversation.
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RE: Is contemporary atheism sufficient to sustain a civilisation?
August 19, 2016 at 5:31 pm
(August 19, 2016 at 2:56 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: (August 19, 2016 at 9:28 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: It's not simply sufficient, it's preferable to any other alternative.
So I'm gathering atheism has nothing positive (proscriptive) to offer the continuity of civilization. But it does have a negative contribution in the attempt to defused religious influences that would destroy civilization. Like a rudder using drag to steer a ship. More like actually -having- a rudder..as opposed to praying to fucking "jesus" to turn the ship. 
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RE: Is contemporary atheism sufficient to sustain a civilisation?
August 19, 2016 at 5:44 pm
The heading makes atheism sound like some great encompassing philosophy.
It makes more sense worded like this in my opinion.
Can civilisation be sufficiently sustained without religion?
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RE: Is contemporary atheism sufficient to sustain a civilisation?
August 19, 2016 at 6:45 pm
(August 14, 2016 at 2:03 am)mralstoner Wrote: Not in its current form of non-discriminating individualism.
Most people are areligous most of the time.
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RE: Is contemporary atheism sufficient to sustain a civilisation?
August 19, 2016 at 6:55 pm
It is preferable to any other alternative as in any other religious alternative. I don't think anyone here would dispute that, except for the theists.
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