Another Circumcision thread

[GrandizerII]

That wasn't that good of a point, though. And you demonstrated that with the last statement.

So do uncircumcised men typically jump in the shower right before having sex?

[FatAndFaithless]

I be lookin' at dis thread like

*Shrugs* Everyone seems to be pretty chill so far.

[The Grand Nudger]

So do uncircumcised men typically jump in the shower right before having sex?

Shower, lol...my piece isn't -that- big...even if it is slightly bigger than average, due to my possessing foreskin if for n other reason.  I plop it in the sink..which is more than many men..circumcized or not..or women... go to the trouble of.  Not that I haven't -ever- thrust it in un-rinsed, lol. Sometimes, the lady doesn't have the patience.

Thing is, cut, uncut, male or female.....your genitalia is easy the nastiest soup to be had.....and we seem to do aight. It's almost as if it wouldn't work, if it couldn't overcome that ever-present obstacle.

[Iroscato]

I be lookin' at dis thread like

*Shrugs* Everyone seems to be pretty chill so far.

Yabbut dick-snippery makes me go into Nope Mode ._.

[The Grand Nudger]

IKR?  The number of males convinced as adults by the "benefits" of circumcision, who subject themselves to the process..is slim.  Even amongst the devoutly religious..say a convert to judaism...or a jew who..for whatever reason, was not cut at birth..just has some blood ritually drawn...that's assuming they feel the need in the first place.

Most of this boils down to kneejerk grossout reactions. We talk about a dirty penis like a dirty penis and an uncut penis are the same thing, like the inferences which can be drawn from a dirty penis are..in and of themselvs, relevant to any given uncut penis.

They're not, and most of -them- are true of any penis, or indeed either bit of genitalia... cut or uncut, male or female. It's just skin and nerves, people, lol.

[LastPoet]

Actually, my wife talked about piercing my daughters ears for earrings. My objections to that are the same and she understood the reasoning. Its a cultural thing here in Portugal.

[The Grand Nudger]

So there's a potential religious bias involved, in her appealing to ad hoc rationalizations regarding a practice engaged for -no- medical benefit, and -with- no roundly demnstrable medical benefit. 

Religious bias?

Circumcision is not a Catholic ting. It's a Jewish thing. She's Catholic. 

Which catholics (and many others) have assumed, culturally, as the purported heirs to the keys of the kingdom.  Let's not pretend that we did some studies and -then- started snipping our dicks.  That didn't happen.    

The largest Catholic nations on earth (Brazil, all of Latin America, Germany, and France), hardly ever circumcise their boys. 

......brazil.......germany, france........relevance?  If cultural support is not there, it;s not done. Cultural support is there, here, and so it is. Where does that come from? If you like, I can give you the chapter and verse, lol.

My whole family is South American and Catholic, and none of them are circumcised. 

So you should be tangenitally familiar with uncut peen.  That makes your statements in this thread..to me, as a fellow member of the uncut, damn near inexplicable.  Your entire family isn;t a walking, festering, incubator for disease with their dirty, inexplicably uncut peni...right? They wash, their dicks......I assume.

Her opinions are purely based on health and what she has seen and dealt with as a doctor. Not religion.

Sure they are, lol. The broad cultural acceptance the practice enjoys as an artifact of religiosity has -nothing- to do with it. She's immune to such things, because she's a doctor.

[GrandizerII]

Shower, lol...my piece isn't -that- big...even if it is slightly bigger than average, due to my possessing foreskin if for n other reason.  I plop it in the sink..which is more than many men..circumcized or not..or women... go to the trouble of.  Not that I haven't -ever- thrust it in un-rinsed, lol.  Sometimes, the lady doesn't have the patience.  

Thing is, cut, uncut, male or female.....your genitalia is easy the nastiest soup to be had.....and we seem to do aight.  It's almost as if it wouldn't work, if it couldn't overcome that ever-present obstacle.

I don't always shower right before sex (because sex is often a spur of the moment thing, and the whole ritualistic showering right before sex kind of ruins the mood), but I personally would never have sex without washing first, if it's been quite a while since I last cleaned my genitals. I'm self-conscious like that.

I don't know what the typical uncut man does, because it's not like I am qualified to speak for them, which is why I did the eyeroll. But hygiene is not a good argument in favor of circumcision because, really, if one's genitals is so nasty that it needs a good wash before anything else, then cut/uncut the answer is to just give it a wash before having sex, especially if there's going to be oral sex involved.

[RozKek]

The benefits of a foreskin outweigh the benefits of a circumcised penis immensely much that a circumcision shouldn't even be considered (imo) in a first world country unless you're a consenting adult and you want to for some reason. Every cut is different, the lucky ones are left with decent amounts of outer and inner foreskin, the others are left with a numb piece of flesh hanging from the body and some have their scrotum skin pulled up to the shaft, which sucks. 

Luckily foreskin restoration is a thing, allegedly you can restore your foreskin (no ridgid band nor frenulum) by stretching the skin gently, it induces mitosis and grows. It's supposedly very similiar to an uncut foreskin but still not as good. Downside is, it can take several years, but some sensitivity, a shining glans and such comes back before you're finished. You can be skeptical of it, but I find reddit foreskin restoration subreddit to be quite helpful and good. Foregen, one of the biggest companies trying to restore a whole foreskin stands behind the idea that foreskin=more sensitivity.

In general, I don't understand why such an old ritual/tradition still lives on.

What are the benefits to foreskin exactly? Research shows the sex isn't any better. Botched circumcisions are incredibly rare in industrialized first-world countries.

How did they research that? "Hey, Jerry. Put on your foreskin and masturbate, take it off and try masturbating without it. How does it feel, Jerry? xd" What I'm saying is mostly based large amounts of self-reports from men. I started searching it up when I realised that masturbating feels like rubbing my palm. Seems like the vast majority of people with this problem are, waddaya know, circumcised. Regarding foreskin restoration, there's science behind it, although it's not really recognized. It's one of those things you should be skeptic about but from what I've gathered, and I'll also try it myself, it should work. Check out reddit/r/foreskin_restoration

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 Anyway. I'll go through some things. A lack of gliding function makes stimulating the 'fine touch nerves' on your penis more difficult to stimulate and more friction based and that results in less sensitivity and depending on the severity of your circumcision, it can leave you with barely any sensitivity. The penis can't use pre-cum as a lubricant without a foreskin. Without a foreskin protecting your glans, the glans will encounter friction essentially 24/7, rubbing against your underwear etc, that makes it less sensitive because or and the glans keratinizes/callouses making the nerves on it hard and difficult to stimulate, needing more friction. Apparently there are some products you can use on your glans to peel the layers of keratin off (or w/e that is), but you don't want to do that, because it will be overly sensitive, rubbing against your underwear. This is what I've gathered.

Remember, it also depends on how much skin has been taken away. There's a foreskin index, for the restorers (nsfw pictures if you search it up) that tell how much foreskin you have when at ci-1 for example. The end goal for most is around ci-7 I think (an average foreskin). Pretty much all of em' report more sensitivity at ci-3 and above. I am below that. The only pleasure I get from masturbating is the orgasm. fun, amirite. 

http://www.foregen.org/human_foreskin (possibly nsfw) is quite helpful

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[The Grand Nudger]

What?  Rubbing your palm?  Jesus christ, I wouldn't even bother to badger my witness if it felt like that.  There isn;t anything else on my body, for me, that feels like the sword out the scabbard.  Nothing even remotely close. I can make no comparisons to any other part. It doesn't feel -like- anything other than what it is.

Fun fact, all those guys who buy little sleeves for their johnson - you know....pleasure and profit...uncut peen comes with it;s own native sleeve equipped. To me, those things don;t have any exceptional benefit. They feel like a cheap version of what mine -always- feels like. So I;d doubt, on the basis of that alone, that theres no difference in quality or sensation. The market for toys like that is huge, it would be strange if evryone was buying them for no reason at all (same with the novelty rubbers).