Another Circumcision thread

[Jesster]

Sure, it's easier when they are infants. That doesn't mean the choice belongs to the parents (which was the point of my question). In a previous post I related it to removing the appendix, so I'll bring that up again now. The appendix can cause a lot of problems later in life. It can be argued that it would be better to take it out early on before it becomes an issue. Should that also be the choice of the parents?

I don't know anything about appendixes or appendix removal, but it sounds like it would be a much more invasive procedure than a circ. For that reason, I would say it probably isn't worth it to remove it just for preventative purposes.

It's still much easier to do it now than later, which was the whole point of your last post.

[The Grand Nudger]

"I'm having trouble keeping your armpits clean Mr. Johnson.  This would have been so much easier if you'd had your arms amputated."

[The Grand Nudger]

That was for tibs, obviously, lol.

[Catholic_Lady]

I don't know anything about appendixes or appendix removal, but it sounds like it would be a much more invasive procedure than a circ. For that reason, I would say it probably isn't worth it to remove it just for preventative purposes.

It's still much easier to do it now than later, which was the whole point of your last post.

Well, the whole point is to weigh the pros and cons. 

Personally, I don't see it as a pro to do a major surgery unless it is necessary. Even if it's harder later on, the procedure is severe enough that I don't think it'd be worth doing unless it was really needed. If it was a simple procedure, that would be different.

[The Grand Nudger]

-What- pros and cons.......?

[Jesster]

It's still much easier to do it now than later, which was the whole point of your last post.

Well, the whole point is to weigh the pros and cons. 

Personally, I don't see it as a pro to do a major surgery unless it is necessary. Even if it's harder later on, the procedure is severe enough that I don't think it'd be worth doing unless it was really needed. If it was a simple procedure, that would be different.

Okay. So back to my original point then. Should these pros and cons be in the hands of the parents? Other parents could see these pros and cons about the appendix differently than you. Would you judge them for weighing the pros and cons differently and removing their child's appendix?

[KUSA]

My cock is so magnificent even though it's cut. Women couldn't handle it if there were any more flesh on it.

My nick name is Buster. Buster Hymen that is.

[Aegon]

What are the benefits to foreskin exactly? Research shows the sex isn't any better. Botched circumcisions are incredibly rare in industrialized first-world countries.

It's ribbed, for her pleasure, and my aggrandizement.  Just for starters, lol. In truth, it;s good for my pleasure too, and saying "studies show the sex isn't any better" kind of fall flat on their face in any objective sense. My foreskin comprises the majority of my skin in that region, and is thus loaded with nerve endings itself. It shields the head of my penis from contact (like, say, from scratching against my clothes all day every day) , making contact pronounced. Pull back the foreskin, and a stiff breeze is a revelation of the divine. I have experiences in this regard for which the uncut have no correlate.

That, and the pleasure of knowing that my mother wasn't willing to have me mutilated immediately upon delivery for a nonexistent god, or because of a cultural tradition.....that's nice, too. I can certainly think of more than a few people in the world who would have appreciated this courtesy.......which was denied to them.

I don;t expect any of these things to be reasons that someone would go out and get themselves some foreskin, if they didn't have any, but I wonder whether or not any discussion of "benefits" is relevant to a discussion of whether or not it;s a good idea to slice off a piece of your body, or more accurately, to have someone else slice of a piece of someone else's body, at your behest. To me, as soon as we start discussing benefits, it would have to be -for- slicing it off, not for leaving it on....and probably not an issue of anything other than what the slicee wants to do, not their mother.

Looks better? Opinion.
Feels better? How would the cut know?
Cleanliness? Wash...your....dick.

This is my biggest disagreement with the anti-circumcision crowd. I just don't see the big deal about it. I know some users will say, "It's a chunk of your junk, how do you not care!?" but I really don't. Last time I had this argument I was told that circumcision is a child abuse, and parents who do it to their poor defenseless babies should have their child taken away. Because I'm clearly so traumatized by this thing that I have absolutely no memory of that a majority of American males had done to them too...

I won't even get into the medical benefits because it became clear to me last time I debated this that, while there are benefits to it, they're not very big ones.

What are the benefits to foreskin exactly? Research shows the sex isn't any better. Botched circumcisions are incredibly rare in industrialized first-world countries.

Not sure which research you are thinking of, but I'm pretty sure the general scientific consensus is that sensitivity is reduced by circumcision. That makes sense considering the foreskin contains a load of nerves.

I have a feeling that trying to measure "sex being better" is going to be kinda subjective. Some circumsized guys will have great sex, some uncircumsized guys will have terrible sex, completely unrelated to their foreskins or lack thereof.

I know for a fact there was a study done with males who had circumcisions later in life (after already being sexually active) and compared the experiences. It was early research but it showed that there was little difference. I know the article exists because I cited it last time I had this discussion, but I'm too busy to find it right now.

[rexbeccarox]

I view infant circumcision as much needed as infant vaccinations.  Therefore, those against infant circumcision are being as ridiculous as those against vaccinations.

I'll have to disagree with you here. 

I'm all for vaccination, but I'm not going to demonize parents who have weighed the pros and cons and truly think it is best for their child not to vaccinate. Same with circumcision. The witch hunt against parents who make different decisions than yourself is what's ridiculous.

I'm sorry; I can't let this go by...

When it comes to vaccinations, it's not a "witch hunt" against people making different decisions. Not vaccinating, unlike circumcising, affects other people, not just you or your child; it's unquestionably dangerous to society, uninformed, and selfish to make that decision.

[Catholic_Lady]

Well, the whole point is to weigh the pros and cons. 

Personally, I don't see it as a pro to do a major surgery unless it is necessary. Even if it's harder later on, the procedure is severe enough that I don't think it'd be worth doing unless it was really needed. If it was a simple procedure, that would be different.

Okay. So back to my original point then. Should these pros and cons be in the hands of the parents? Other parents could see these pros and cons about the appendix differently than you. Would you judge them for weighing the pros and cons differently and removing their child's appendix?

No, I would not judge.