What is Atheism?

[FatAndFaithless]

What does that even mean? Also..what is "caveman atheism"?

[Amarok]

1. It's not atheisms job to account for things were not proposing we know how the world works only theists are that arrogant. Explanations like  delusions are FACTS shown in the real world as opposed feverish theistic fantasies founded on nothing. And no we dismiss it that would imply it's serious proposal that needs to be dismissed.

2. Nope not incredulity theists have proposed something and have not backed it up despite all the boasting they have.

3. Even if the bible were true I would still act the same as I do now. And there is no contradiction between excepting something is possible and mocking it's believers for there lack of evidence for the proposition in question .

4. And nope in not avoiding anything . Theists have then burden of proof end of story

[RoadRunner79]

Yes... I detect a lack of critical thinking... and critical reading as this has nothing to do with what I said.

Oh but it does.  You were saying the god-does-not-exist interpretation of atheism was more informative.  Well that's only important to you because you'd like to know that means we want to argue god doesn't exist.

Incorrect... I'm not preferring one definition over the other, because I am trying to force something onto your position. I do wish to represent my interlocutors accurately. It is a preference because of the reason I gave (clarity). As Neo said, if the shoe fits... wear it, if not, then I'm not talking about you. If however you want to make claims, and then fall back to a definition, to say that you don't shoulder a burden of proof; that's not going to fly! You cannot keep your claims, and retreat back to that position. Additionally, that definition while it may apply to one who is skeptical and not making a claim (yea or nay), does not necessarily fit only that category.

Many of us don't care....The laziness is yours for wanting atheists to declare the information you seek for you. Our not wishing to be bothered to serve you in this way is no indication of sloth on our part. Do your own sleuthing.

It often shows (that many don't care... hence the critical thinking comment)! Don't blame me, for looking at the evidence. My opinion is going to reflect what a person posts. If it is bad, whether from apathy, or a lack of attention, the opinion isn't going to differ much from someone who is just not that bright. Don't like it, either don't post and provide evidence towards that conclusion, or perhaps give it more attention so that a different conclusion is made.

I think you are misunderstanding or misconstruing what I am saying. Once again, all I am asking is that you give reason for any claims that our made. Do you think that is unreasonable?

[Cyberman]

What does that even mean?  Also..what is "caveman atheism"?

What happens in the Vedas, stays in the Vedas.

[FatAndFaithless]

What does that even mean?  Also..what is "caveman atheism"?

What happens in the Vedas, stays in the Vedas.

Viva Las Vedas, I suppose.

[Mister Agenda]

I'd be very interested in seeing the most egregious example you have of this claim.

See the Carl Sagin Thread!   (edit:   correction Neil Degrasse Tyson thread)

(note: perhaps not the most eregious, but a recent one)   I don't keep a list to bring up later and shove in peoples faces.   Just know that I run into it quite often.

Thanks for updating, I was just about to ask for more information on that Carl Sagan thread.

[Mister Agenda]

Where do you get your information on atheism in prehistory?

You're saying there's a God, but I'm not buying what you're selling. No profound philosophy needed, but if you want one, there's a variety to choose from. Not as great a variety as for theists, but we don't have thousands of different ideas of gods to sell.

[Jesster]

Note:  Didn't vote, because both can be used.

This is the first thing you've said in this thread that I can agree with. I said that both can be used in my opening post here. That's generally how definitions work, and why we work from less specific to more specific instead of the other way around when trying to understand context.

[Amarok]

Hence Atheism in the West does not have a very profound philosophy and it just tribal like by just take opposing position and never really giving any deep rooted argument why their position makes better sense

Atheism is no a proposition and the lack of evidence for god is all we need to justify it

Well you may find evidence after you die.

Yup and I also might find evidence of sock gnomes tomorrow care I don't give to shits about evidence that might someday exist

Therefore why is it wrong to ponder on the notion of God, soul, afterlife?

I have better things to do then mentally masturbate

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What happens in the Vedas, stays in the Vedas.

  I think I found Stimbo

 

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Where do you get your information on atheism in prehistory?

You're saying there's a God, but I'm not buying what you're selling. No profound philosophy needed, but if you want one, there's a variety to choose from. Not as great a variety as for theists, but we don't have thousands of different ideas of gods to sell.

 Bingo you nailed it.  You have absolute zero to sell.  Zero understanding, zero philosophy,  zero cognitive reasoning, and zero logic.  Compare that to Eastern Atheism and Theism who do have better schools of thought.  The West both in atheism and theism (Abrahamic religions) suck

better huh remind me again which civilization got to the moon first . Or invented the computer you currently using .

[Nonpareil]

You're saying there's a God, but I'm not buying what you're selling. No profound philosophy needed, but if you want one, there's a variety to choose from. Not as great a variety as for theists, but we don't have thousands of different ideas of gods to sell.

Bingo you nailed it.  You have absolute zero to sell.  Zero understanding, zero philosophy,  zero cognitive reasoning, and zero logic.  Compare that to Eastern Atheism and Theism who do have better schools of thought.  The West both in atheism and theism (Abrahamic religions) suck

Did anyone else hear the whistling noise as the point went over his head?