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RE: Ybe an atheist
May 24, 2018 at 3:15 pm
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(May 24, 2018 at 3:06 pm)Ybe Wrote: My intention is to discuss. "Y B an A. Can U tell me Y B an A?"
If one wish to discuss something different like who wrote the B etc or you think my thread is hostile., then perhaps you would enjoy a different thread
or discussion.
If not a different thread, then hopefully some logical answers to the Q will be made.
If you are one who thinks a Q is a justifiable answer I would need more clarification as to how so?
And my intention is to point out delusional thinking. You fit the bill.
Answer the question about the bible, it is apparently part of your delusion.
I answered your question, you dodged. Apparently you are not a very confidant christian.
Edit: I still think you're a troll/POE.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: Ybe an atheist
May 24, 2018 at 3:20 pm
(May 24, 2018 at 2:47 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: ...simple. I don't see any evidence for god(s), so I don't accept the proposition that he/she/it/them exist. That's all. Yes, I think that's rational.
OK, without ![[Image: argue.gif]](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/argue.gif) what proof can you give that you haven't seen any evidence for G?
And how does just saying. "I think that's rational" justify it being rational? How do you decide what is true vs false?
Thanks for your response though.
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RE: Ybe an atheist
May 24, 2018 at 3:23 pm
(May 24, 2018 at 3:20 pm)Ybe Wrote: OK, without what proof can you give that you haven't seen any evidence for G?
This applies to me as well. I just don't see any believable evidence. That's it. That's all. That's all the proof I will ever need.
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RE: Ybe an atheist
May 24, 2018 at 3:24 pm
(May 24, 2018 at 3:20 pm)Ybe Wrote: (May 24, 2018 at 2:47 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: ...simple. I don't see any evidence for god(s), so I don't accept the proposition that he/she/it/them exist. That's all. Yes, I think that's rational.
OK, without what proof can you give that you haven't seen any evidence for G?
And how does just saying. "I think that's rational" justify it being rational? How do you decide what is true vs false?
Thanks for your response though.
What proof can you give that you havent seen evidence that f&f hasnt seen any evidence for a god?
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RE: Ybe an atheist
May 24, 2018 at 3:24 pm
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(May 24, 2018 at 3:20 pm)Ybe Wrote: (May 24, 2018 at 2:47 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: ...simple. I don't see any evidence for god(s), so I don't accept the proposition that he/she/it/them exist. That's all. Yes, I think that's rational.
OK, without what proof can you give that you haven't seen any evidence for G?
And how does just saying. "I think that's rational" justify it being rational? How do you decide what is true vs false?
Thanks for your response though.
...You're asking me for proof of what goes on in my head - that's an inane question. It's like me asking for proof that you've never heard my voice - how on earth could you possibly 'prove' that apart from saying you simply haven't ever heard it?
How about I phrase it this way: Whenever I am presented with evidence or arguments for god(s), I find the evidence/arguments to be flawed, unconvincing, or inconclusive at best. Since I currently have no good reason to believe that a god(s) exists, I do not believe that a god(s) exists.
If you actually have an argument or some evidence for god, please show it. You're already veering close to presuppositionalist territory.
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RE: Ybe an atheist
May 24, 2018 at 3:26 pm
(May 24, 2018 at 3:20 pm)Ybe Wrote: (May 24, 2018 at 2:47 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: ...simple. I don't see any evidence for god(s), so I don't accept the proposition that he/she/it/them exist. That's all. Yes, I think that's rational.
OK, without what proof can you give that you haven't seen any evidence for G?
And how does just saying. "I think that's rational" justify it being rational? How do you decide what is true vs false?
Thanks for your response though.
What proof can we give for the lack of evidence...
You're kidding, right?
What evidence - real evidence, not claims - can you provide for the existence of this being?
* "Evidence" is not bible passages, claims of personal experiences, claims from incredulity/ignorance, or "look at the trees!"
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RE: Ybe an atheist
May 24, 2018 at 3:29 pm
(May 24, 2018 at 1:38 pm)Ybe Wrote: Thanks for your replies. I have read the rules before my first post, but perhaps not studiously enough.
Is there any logical. reasonable. rational reason to be an A atheist or "apatheist"
Is there any reasonable reason why one shouldn't believe in underpant gnomes?
Once you get the answer to one you get the answer to the other.
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RE: Ybe an atheist
May 24, 2018 at 3:46 pm
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(May 24, 2018 at 3:01 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: (May 24, 2018 at 2:42 pm)Ybe Wrote: Q. Is there any logical. reasonable. rational reason to be an A? Yes, because belief that a god concept actually exists in reality is a fantasy delusion. But Superman, he's real. Do you believe in S? There are so many things you take for granted in your answers. You need to define exists, reality etc. and explain why I should accept your definitions as being rational. This thread is about that.
Your assertion needs to be backed up.
In your case, how do you know your believing that a "belief in a god concept actually existing in reality is a fantasy delusion", is not a fantasy delusion?
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RE: Ybe an atheist
May 24, 2018 at 3:50 pm
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Prove that you aren't a fantasy delusion, Ybe. You sound like an even more postmodernist version of Jordan Peterson crossed with the beginnings of Ken Ham-ish apologetics.
Simply put, do you have any argument or evidence for the existence of god, or no? I've already answered your question about why I'm an atheist. Why are you a theist?
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RE: Ybe an atheist
May 24, 2018 at 3:52 pm
(May 24, 2018 at 3:46 pm)Ybe Wrote: (May 24, 2018 at 3:01 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Yes, because belief that a god concept actually exists in reality is a fantasy delusion. But Superman, he's real. Do you believe in S? There are so many things you take for granted in your answers. You need to define exists, reality etc. and explain why I should accept your definitions as being rational. This thread is about that.
Your assertion needs to be backed up.
In your case, how do you know your believe that a "belief in a god concept actually existing in reality is a fantasy delusion", is not a fantasy delusion?
I'll accept Websters for definitions. Will you?
Specifically which parts need to be backed up? Or is this yet another troll/POE dodge.
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