#OccupyICE

[CapnAwesome]

Min made a thread about this, praising the protestors. Now I like most protests, but it just started reminds me how hypocritical people are when it comes to politics.

When those little hillbillies in Oregon occupied a federal building in the middle of nowhere they were terrorists and these guys do it in the middle of a large metropolitan city and they are hero's. No moral consistency from the atheist forums ideologes, as usual.

Yeah....they were armed terrorists not unarmed protesters. I guess you have trouble seeing the difference?

The difference is that they weren't supporting a cause that you liked. Also the people in Portland have actually terrorized people.

[Divinity]

Republicans: NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ARMED PROTEST AND AN UNARMED PROTEST!

Republicans: IF YOU ARE GOING TO PROTEST YOU SHOULD PROTEST PEACEFULLY...

unless of course you decide to take a knee for the flag, because that triggers us so fucking hard.

BTW We want civility but fuck your feelings.

[CapnAwesome]

Republicans: NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ARMED PROTEST AND AN UNARMED PROTEST!

Republicans: IF YOU ARE GOING TO PROTEST YOU SHOULD PROTEST PEACEFULLY...

unless of course you decide to take a knee for the flag, because that triggers us so fucking hard.

BTW We want civility but fuck your feelings.

Are you suggesting that Republicans have responded to a kneeling in the NFL with violent armed protest? I must of missed that one.

[Divinity]

Well, I can see there's no use talking to a fucking brick wall. No reason to talk to any Republicans ever tbh.

[CapnAwesome]

Well, I can see there's no use talking to a fucking brick wall. No reason to talk to any Republicans ever tbh.

Lol. I'm not a republican, so you are safe. I'm just curious about the violent armed protests you just claimed we're happening in response to kneeling to the anthem.

I can see how you'd end up with a bunch of Looney beliefs about people if you made all these assumptions about them and then refused to even speak to them and get their side. You can't see a problem with that kind of thinking?

[Divinity]

There's a difference between peaceful protests and armed protests. That you don't get that means you're either A. Pretending to be obtuse, or B. Actually being obtuse.

[CapnAwesome]

There's a difference between peaceful protests and armed protests. That you don't get that means you're either A. Pretending to be obtuse, or B. Actually being obtuse.

I'm didn't even mention that. I just want to know about this violent armed republican protest towards the nation anthem kneeling that you specifically referenced. That's mostly what I'm interested in talking to you about. I read the news every day, so I'm surprised I missed it. Could you at least provide a source.

Also there is a difference between a peaceful protest and a violent protest, not an armed one. There have been plenty of peaceful armed protests and plenty of violent unarmed ones.

But before we can continue this enlightening discussion I need that source.

[downbeatplumb]

Min made a thread about this, praising the protestors. Now I like most protests, but it just started reminds me how hypocritical people are when it comes to politics.

When those little hillbillies in Oregon occupied a federal building in the middle of nowhere they were terrorists and these guys do it in the middle of a large metropolitan city and they are hero's. No moral consistency from the atheist forums ideologes, as usual.

One was a hostile armed takeover. An act or open aggression, terrorism if you will, which should have been crushed by the armed services. 


The other is an unarmed demonstration.

People were involved, people with issues.
But its like saying the american civil war was exactly the same as ghandi starving himself for independence.

[CapnAwesome]

Min made a thread about this, praising the protestors. Now I like most protests, but it just started reminds me how hypocritical people are when it comes to politics.

When those little hillbillies in Oregon occupied a federal building in the middle of nowhere they were terrorists and these guys do it in the middle of a large metropolitan city and they are hero's. No moral consistency from the atheist forums ideologes, as usual.

One was a hostile armed takeover. An act or open aggression, terrorism if you will, which should have been crushed by the armed services. 


The other is an unarmed demonstration.

People were involved, people with issues.
But its like saying the american civil war was exactly the same as ghandi starving himself for independence.

Dude, they needed to evacuate people surrounded by police holding riot shields while getting stuff thrown at them. Refused to let people leave, how do you think they enforced that threat? With the specture of violence. Not to mention I was there physically to check it out. There was an antifa presence, which is not usual at all in Portland protests. That's a group that is neither unarmed or peaceful.

Seeing things live and then having atheists forum people lecture you about it is pretty funny actually. It just shows the Rose colored glasses that politics makes. Or the reverse, calling political groups you don't like terrorists and using hyped up language like "a take over a federal facility" even though it was winter and nobody was even there to take it over.

Any objective viewership of the two events would say this is more of a take over of a federal facility. If you (frighteningly) believe use of lethal force is justified in one, someone will use that exact same logic for the other. Including the stupid 'terrorist' label. Which should at a minimum require a death from terrorism.

[Losty]

Divinity never claimed there was an armed protest in response to people kneeling. Your dishonesty in debating is cute though