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Ontological Disproof of God
RE: Ontological Disproof of God
(September 6, 2018 at 5:52 am)negatio Wrote: What is "ABSOLUTELY HARAM" Nine ? Negatio.

Haram means forbidden by Allah.

I found the idea of putting lipstick on swine objectionable so made a (not very good) joke.

Thread about disproving god -> Sexy swine -> pork is haram -> Bad joke

(September 6, 2018 at 5:52 am)negatio Wrote: Boru, Your pure assertion, absent an actual grammatical parsing of an example of one of my sentences, is meaningless; yea, sure, I cannot write a sentence !  What most everyone here on the  forum appear to be are persons who proceed via insult, and, will not allow Duane to be Duane; Duane always and constantly is being advised on how to be someone Other than himself, which is some wonderful Platonic Other having Being somewhere within an indeterminate ideality.  Duane, though a perfect writer, can never be a pure Platonic Idea. Negatio.

Unfortunately playing with grammar and overly analytical reading into the words and their potential meanings rather than clear intent is often used as a counter argument.
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RE: Ontological Disproof of God
(September 6, 2018 at 5:23 am)negatio Wrote: Odd, I know for an absolute certainty that I said no such thing to the forum ! 
Isn't it interesting how the things you know keep failing the most basic and cursory examination?  First, you were unaware of the shortcomings of your own assertions and the theological claims made regarding christer god.  Now you're unaware of self and the contents of your own posts.
Quote:Therefore, you have to be addressing me metaphorically;
What a brilliant conclusion!

If you spent more time improving your argument and less time taking offense, I'd have less to poke fun at.  Are you free to do that?

@Nine
AFAIK, you're allowed to dress it up all purty-like, just not eat it. Wink
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Ontological Disproof of God
(September 6, 2018 at 6:38 am)Khemikal Wrote: @Nine
AFAIK, you're allowed to dress it up all purty-like, just not eat it.  Wink

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Well, I've disturbed myself.
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RE: Ontological Disproof of God
(September 6, 2018 at 6:07 am)Nine Wrote:
(September 6, 2018 at 5:52 am)negatio Wrote: What is "ABSOLUTELY HARAM" Nine ? Negatio.

Haram means forbidden by Allah.

I found the idea of putting lipstick on swine objectionable so made a (not very good) joke.

Thread about disproving god -> Sexy swine -> pork is haram -> Bad joke

(September 6, 2018 at 5:52 am)negatio Wrote: Boru, Your pure assertion, absent an actual grammatical parsing of an example of one of my sentences, is meaningless; yea, sure, I cannot write a sentence !  What most everyone here on the  forum appear to be are persons who proceed via insult, and, will not allow Duane to be Duane; Duane always and constantly is being advised on how to be someone Other than himself, which is some wonderful Platonic Other having Being somewhere within an indeterminate ideality.  Duane, though a perfect writer, with an infinite vocabulary, can never be a pure Platonic Idea. Negatio.

Unfortunately playing with grammar and overly analytical reading into the words and their potential meanings rather than clear intent is often used as a counter argument.


You know Nine, a very interesting observation I once encountered is the notion that absolutely everything we say to one another as human beings is immediately misinterpreted by the person to whom we are addressing ourselves. Thus, we are all continually reciprocally misinterpreting each other in a spiral of miscommunication! Negatio.
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RE: Ontological Disproof of God
(September 6, 2018 at 6:49 am)negatio Wrote: You know Nine, a very interesting observation I once encountered is the notion that absolutely everything we say to one another as human beings in immediately misinterpreted by the person to whom we are addressing ourselves. Thus, we are all continually reciprocally misinterpreting each other in a spiral of miscommunication! Negatio.

That seems the way of things. However, communication is an art. The more you master it the harder it is for it to be misunderstood or misrepresented. It certainly doesn't hurt to try and be as clear and concise as you can achieve. The more complicated the ideas the harder it gets though. I certainly found this forum to be an good avenue to practice that. People will certainly let you know if there is any flaw in your language use  Angel
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RE: Ontological Disproof of God
(September 6, 2018 at 6:38 am)Khemikal Wrote:
(September 6, 2018 at 5:23 am)negatio Wrote: Odd, I know for an absolute certainty that I said no such thing to the forum ! 
Isn't it interesting how the things you know keep failing the most basic and cursory examination?  First, you were unaware of the shortcomings of your own assertions and the theological claims made regarding christer god.  Now you're unaware of self and the contents of your own posts.
Quote:Therefore, you have to be addressing me metaphorically;
What a brilliant conclusion!

If you spent more time improving your argument and less time taking offense, I'd have less to poke fun at.  Are you free to do that?

@Nine
AFAIK, you're allowed to dress it up all purty-like, just not eat it.  Wink


Khemikal, the more and more intently you proceed via positing horrid insults here in the philosophy forum,  the more and more you alienate others by insults deemed, worldwide, to be radically unacceptable; and, nonetheless, you further intensified the joke which Nine found absolutely offensive, which clearly exhibits an intent on your part, Khemikal, of acting outrageously irresponsibly, on purpose! Negatio.

(September 6, 2018 at 7:16 am)negatio Wrote:
(September 6, 2018 at 6:38 am)Khemikal Wrote: Isn't it interesting how the things you know keep failing the most basic and cursory examination?  First, you were unaware of the shortcomings of your own assertions and the theological claims made regarding christer god.  Now you're unaware of self and the contents of your own posts.
What a brilliant conclusion!

If you spent more time improving your argument and less time taking offense, I'd have less to poke fun at.  Are you free to do that?

@Nine
AFAIK, you're allowed to dress it up all purty-like, just not eat it.  Wink


Khemikal, the more and more intently you proceed via positing horrid insults here in the philosophy forum,  the more and more you alienate others by insults deemed, worldwide, to be radically unacceptable; and, nonetheless, you further intensified the joke which Nine found absolutely offensive, which clearly exhibits an intent on your part, Khemikal, of acting outrageously irresponsibly, on purpose! Negatio.


You know Khemical, I have been living in the south now for seven years, and, what I see very clearly here in the south is that many, many, of the natives are "crackers".  'Cracker' is a term which arose from the Negro slaves who were subjected to being whipped by their white overseers, the crack of the whip being the inspiration for the term. Clearly, Khemical , though often deemed by others here on the forum to possess an infinite wisdom, is, as well, a nauseatingly mean, cruel, ignorant white cracker mother fucker (i.e., crackers fucked the black women who were mothers of black slave children). So, we have a horrid, cruel, condescending fucking southern cracker in our presence.  However, there is a sense wherein I fucking love the motherfucking goddamn asshole! That's a cracker for you, until you are forced, by their horrid conduct, to politely ask them to quit coming around anymore.  Negatio.
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RE: Ontological Disproof of God
(September 6, 2018 at 6:49 am)negatio Wrote: You know Nine, a very interesting observation I once encountered is the notion that absolutely everything we say to one another as human beings is immediately misinterpreted by the person to whom we are addressing ourselves. Thus, we are all continually reciprocally misinterpreting each other in a spiral of miscommunication! Negatio.
Or maybe it's just you?

Quote:Khemikal, the more and more intently you proceed via positing horrid insults here in the philosophy forum,  the more and more you alienate others by insults deemed, worldwide, to be radically unacceptable; and, nonetheless, you further intensified the joke which Nine found absolutely offensive, which clearly exhibits an intent on your part, Khemikal, of acting outrageously irresponsibly, on purpose! Negatio.
There isn't much left to do when you won't engage with your own argument.....except crack jokes, ofc.


Quote:You know Khemical, I have been living in the south now for seven years, and, what I see very clearly here in the south is that many, many, of the natives are "crackers".  'Cracker' is a term which arose from the Negro slaves who were subjected to being whipped by their white overseers, the crack of the whip being the inspiration for the term. Clearly, Khemical , though often deemed by others here on the forum to possess an infinite wisdom, is, as well, a nauseatingly mean, cruel, ignorant white cracker mother fucker (i.e., crackers fucked the black women who were mothers of black slave children). So, we have a horrid, cruel, condescending fucking southern cracker in our presence.  However, there is a sense wherein I fucking love the motherfucking goddamn asshole! That's a cracker for you, until you are forced, by their horrid conduct, to politely ask them to quit coming around anymore.  Negatio.
I'll be damned, you found another thing to get wrong.  The term predates the plantation era. I am a cracker, FWIW, what with being from florida and all. : shrugs :
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Ontological Disproof of God
(September 5, 2018 at 1:41 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:  Neg has threatened to re-write post#1 many times, but has assiduously avoided doing so, ever. 

A re-write of Part I of the OP was sent to you via post from page 19 #184 of this thread, which was a good while ago, so, your above is a mischaracterization...I did rewrite the Deity disproof portion; no more is requisite, until consensus can be reached among members whether or not Part I constitutes a prima facie viable disproof.  I have proferred the possibility of putting the viability of the paper to a consensus vote, the same way science proceeds, however, I do not think there if enough  interest for consensus, either way, to happen.  If the disproof is deemed, by members, to have failed to rise to mere prima facie status, then, I'm outa here, away from all the psychological torture....Negatio.
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RE: Ontological Disproof of God
If you don't win a popularity contest, you're going to leave?

LOL, good luck.

-and this is why you will never possess a solid argument, even though one can certainly be found.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Ontological Disproof of God
Psychological torture?

Lol
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