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I like that American left are miserable
#61
RE: I like that American left are miserable
Not a purity test. I simply don't entertain nonsense from people whose only prerogative is to argue with people on the internet. You say you've done all of those things? Okay. I hope you're being truthful. And if you are, good on you. But what I won't entertain is people who only want to debate and have never actually lifted a finger outside of an internet forum.
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#62
RE: I like that American left are miserable
(March 18, 2019 at 5:19 pm)Cecelia Wrote: Moderates, or as I like to call them "Frauderates" see conservatives as more willing to negotiate.  That's because this is how they see negotiation:

Side 1: "We want to kill all Hispanic people."
Side 2: "We don't want to kill any Hispanic people."
Compromise: Kill HALF the Hispanic people
SIde 1: "We're okay with that!
Side 2: "We're not!"
Frauderates: "SIDE 2 IS SO UNWILLING TO COMPROMISE!"

There's a super double standard going on.  

When the left compromises, they're called out as not standing up for their beliefs.
When the right compromises, they're lauded for compromising (often on their AWFUL beliefs)
When the left doesn't compromise, they're called out as being unwilling to compromise and are part of the problem.
When the right doesn't compromise, it's ignored.

Like when President Obama nominated Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court.  Republicans REFUSED to give him a hearing.  It's not that they would vote against him--they outright refused to hold a vote.
When Donald nominated Brettt Kavanaugh, accused of sexual assault, to the Supreme Court Republicans REFUSED to withdraw the nomination, and REFUSED to have an in depth investigation into the allegations, and made up their mind on him before hand.  

When Democrats wanted single payer healthcare, they compromised, and we ended up with the Affordable Care Act.
When Republicans got in office, they made it their top goal to repeal the affordable care act.  They just barely failed to overturn it.

Democrats offered Donald money for his stupid shrine to racism and bigotry in exchange for protection for DACA.
Donald refused the deal, figuring he had the power.
Despite that, he never made any steps toward getting funding for his Bigotry Memorial until Democrats were in power.
Now, Democrats are the ones saying no.
Some would have you think that Democrats need to 'compromise here' -- and they HAVE.  They've offered money toward OTHER border protection, but not the wall.  This is the very definition of compromise.

On Gun Control, Democrats have scaled back asking for a full out ban, looking to expand background checks.  Republicans have always said no.  No ban on bump stocks after the Vegas Shooting.  No action at all after the murder of Kindergarteners in Sandy Hook.  Apparently, the murder of Kindergartners does not weigh on the conscience of Republicans or their voters.

Conservatives get credit for 'compromising' without ever really compromising.  Mostly because I don't think a lot of people understand what compromise really is.  Meanwhile Democrats are called out for not compromising, despite compromising all the time.

It's outrageous.

The bit about the negotiation over killing Hispanics was a bit over the top. In a recent discussion that I had with the forum's libtards, it did become pretty apparent that they felt a good deal of racism toward Hispanics for being 'white adjacent' and for their conservative culture.  

But you are right that 'centrist' Democrats tried very hard to compromise with the right, and all that they got for it was having the center dragged to the right. Here is a very good article from Vox in which a centrist Dem argues that it is in fact time for the Democratic Party to pass the leadership baton to the Democratic Socialists.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/...rad-delong
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#63
RE: I like that American left are miserable
LOL, not a purity test.  Okay, if you say so.

You're getting played. Just take a look at what you're getting for what you're willing to give.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#64
RE: I like that American left are miserable
"You're getting played."

Ironic.

Also ironic that the dude talking about "purity" tests is the one who wanted to make the point that not only has he been involved in politics, but he's also "put [his] life on the line" for them. Oh okay. Funny.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
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#65
RE: I like that American left are miserable
I'm not involved in national elections, lol, because they're a scam..nubbin.  Keep pulling that lever for compromise and the lesser of two evils, though.

What's the worst that could happen?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#66
RE: I like that American left are miserable
Ah, now it comes out. I don't vote because elections are nonsense. Then you wonder why Trump got elected. Jesus christ Doh
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
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#67
RE: I like that American left are miserable
Perhaps you should look to a trump voter to explain how a trump got elected?  Just a suggestion. What sort of "compromise" are you willing to make with them? How many mexicans are you willing to negotiate over?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#68
RE: I like that American left are miserable
Oh, how quickly you resort to your usual nonsense. No surprise there. I take solace in knowing that most people on here don't buy into your bullshit. Thankfully.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
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#69
RE: I like that American left are miserable
So what number of mexicans is that?  I'm not looking to moralize over the issue, lol..just trying to get at exactly what you're putting on the table for compromise.  If the answer is none, for example..then are you actually willing to compromise?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#70
RE: I like that American left are miserable
Once again, you use race-baiting nonsense and baseless accusations to steer the conversation so far away from the original point that instead of actually trying to DEBATE with the person you're talking to, you attempt to get them up on their heels in defending that they're not actually racists or at least complicit in racially bigoted bullshit. It's so transparent that it's ridiculous. I'm sure you actually believe this is a solid tactic though, which is sad. Problem is, it aint gonna work with me.

You contradict yourself so obviously that you don't even see it. On one hand, national elections are a scam! On the other hand, it isn't you who helped get Trump elected, but the people who voted for him. Though, if you weren't voting for Hillary, you were complicit in getting Trump elected. Period. But oh! Wait, see? You've left yourself a back door. Because national elections are a scam anyway! Ahhh I see how you operate, bolg.

You're so filled to the brim with your own excrement I smell your nonsense coming from a mile away. Once again, I take solace in knowing that most people here on AF don't buy into your garbage. Get in your little last word, we all know how much you love getting in the last dig. Enjoy.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
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