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Why we might be alone in the Universe
#81
RE: Why we might be alone in the Universe
(May 11, 2019 at 12:34 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Aliens use telepathy for communication. They use teleportation for travel. They strongly resemble the Markovians with regard to technology.

Therefore we have a looooooooong time before we detect them. And they don't give a flying fuck about us until we can.



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#82
RE: Why we might be alone in the Universe
(May 11, 2019 at 12:42 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(May 11, 2019 at 12:34 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Aliens use telepathy for communication. They use teleportation for travel. They strongly resemble the Markovians with regard to technology.

Therefore we have a looooooooong time before we detect them. And they don't give a flying fuck about us until we can.




Brian, they have an ambulance parked a few blocks away, waiting for you. Hilarious
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#83
RE: Why we might be alone in the Universe
(May 10, 2019 at 9:02 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(May 10, 2019 at 8:12 pm)Jehanne Wrote: The signal did not create itself; where did it come?

How do you know it's not a natural event? Where did it come from? Any damn where.

Read the Wikipedia article; it was at 1240 MHz, a protected area of the EM, where the fundamental element hydrogen transitions, the most likely frequency for ET to send a message. Also, it came from Sagittarius, where the center of our Galaxy is located.

(May 10, 2019 at 8:31 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:
(May 10, 2019 at 8:12 pm)Jehanne Wrote: The signal did not create itself; where did it come?

There are a number of alternate theories on that. A military spy satellite would certainly be capable of creating such a signal and also would not have been documented/traceable as the source. Another theory is that a distant comet could have passed into the detector's field of view. 

Though unlikely, it is possible for a comet to create the signal picked up by the detector.

The signal was only seen in one horn, and not the other. The spectrum is too Gaussian ("bell shaped") to have been the result of a moving satellite, and a geosynchronous one would have hit both horns.
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#84
RE: Why we might be alone in the Universe
And there is nothing natural that would produce that signal? (Please include things we don't know about yet in your answer.)
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#85
RE: Why we might be alone in the Universe
(May 11, 2019 at 12:34 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Aliens use telepathy for communication. They use teleportation for travel. They strongly resemble the Markovians with regard to technology.

Therefore we have a looooooooong time before we detect them. And they don't give a flying fuck about us until we can.

So you give a flying fuck about ants?

Wireless radio communication might as well be telepathy to those from as recent as the civil war era.

Crossing the ocean by airplane that flies over the heads of people watching the coast, and then landing on an inland city might as well be teleportation to those from war of 1756.

Our technology strongly resemble nothing less than Yahweh to the sheep fuckers who dreamt up Yahweh.


I think it is a reasonable hypothesis that advanced civilizations tend to be difficult to recognize as such by observers too far behind them in technology.   Such of their handiwork as would be detectable for an observer far behind themselves in technology would tend to be mistaken for grand but natural phenomenon.  Since we’ve been technological for such a small percentage of time when the universe around us could have harbored technological civilizations, we are likely by some substantial margin amongst the least technological of any civilizations that has any claim to being technological within a fairly sizable volume of space around us.   So we fail to find technological civilization because:

1. We are so backward there is almost no room for another technological civilization to be more backwards then us so we can definitely interpret things of them we see.

2. We may see things in space that are the handiwork of cultures thousands or millions of years more advanced then us, but they appear to be natural constructions on cosmological scale.






(May 11, 2019 at 1:35 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(May 10, 2019 at 9:02 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: How do you know it's not a natural event? Where did it come from? Any damn where.

Read the Wikipedia article; it was at 1240 MHz, a protected area of the EM, where the fundamental element hydrogen transitions, the most likely frequency for ET to send a message.  Also, it came from Sagittarius, where the center of our Galaxy is located.

(May 10, 2019 at 8:31 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: There are a number of alternate theories on that. A military spy satellite would certainly be capable of creating such a signal and also would not have been documented/traceable as the source. Another theory is that a distant comet could have passed into the detector's field of view. 

Though unlikely, it is possible for a comet to create the signal picked up by the detector.

The signal was only seen in one horn, and not the other.  The spectrum is too Gaussian ("bell shaped") to have been the result of a moving satellite, and a geosynchronous one would have hit both horns.

Uh, The fact that the signal was seen only by one horn and not the other strongly suggest it didn’t come from very far away?
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#86
RE: Why we might be alone in the Universe
(May 11, 2019 at 1:42 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: And there is nothing natural that would produce that signal? (Please include things we don't know about yet in your answer.)

I am not saying that the signal was artificial. Clearly, if a signal was pulsing the number pi to 20 digits before repeating, such is clearly artificial. Having said that, the signal was an intense, narrowband signal that has not been observed since, by any radio telescope. It may have been a beacon sent by ET or some freaky natural phenomenon.
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#87
RE: Why we might be alone in the Universe
(May 11, 2019 at 2:14 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(May 11, 2019 at 1:42 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: And there is nothing natural that would produce that signal? (Please include things we don't know about yet in your answer.)

I am not saying that the signal was artificial.  Clearly, if a signal was pulsing the number pi to 20 digits before repeating, such is clearly artificial.  Having said that, the signal was an intense, narrowband signal that has not been observed since, by any radio telescope.  It may have been a beacon sent by ET or some freaky natural phenomenon.

"Thin, very thin." You presented it as "best evidence", it's not.
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#88
RE: Why we might be alone in the Universe
(May 11, 2019 at 12:55 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(May 11, 2019 at 12:42 pm)Brian37 Wrote:


Brian, they have an ambulance parked a few blocks away, waiting for you.  Hilarious

I am a ABBA fan, and a Redskins fan, and I record the NFL without their permission. Do you really think I am afraid of anything? DON'T ANSWER THAT!
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#89
RE: Why we might be alone in the Universe
I'll settle for a pulse sequence of prime numbers.  Or a repeating pulse sequence of 3.14159.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#90
RE: Why we might be alone in the Universe
(May 11, 2019 at 4:06 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I'll settle for a pulse sequence of prime numbers.  Or a repeating pulse sequence of 3.14159.

Boru

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