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The Adam & Eve Myth - Origins
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 (May 28, 2019 at 5:40 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: ^^^ TL;DR, but that's it. Whether the Vedic myth is in any way a source for the Hebrew one is debatable, but it certainly seems to follow what may be a question as old as humanity: 'Why is life so frigging HARD??' Boru
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 (May 28, 2019 at 2:52 am)Gwaithmir Wrote:(May 27, 2019 at 11:46 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Just wondering... what piqued your curiosity about this, Gwaithmir? He considers it a unique story, fine by me. Does not make it any more plausible. Superman is a unique story also.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
Glob...
how many year was it between adam and eve and the establishment of jerusalem? roughly between 3500 and 4500 years... Now do you understand the reasoning for this question/time line? Judaism was not a religion till after the exodus of the jews which means even while in captivity in egypt the people who would become jews would in egypt not be known as jews nor would their religion be known as even abraham was not a jew. his religion or his father religion was that of the ancient sumerians... Meaning If God chose abraham to be the father of his people then it would make sense that his leonage be traced back through a given people which again would carry the same stories and tellings of their God from the time of adam and eve back. Meaning you are not looking for a religion older than judaism you are look for a religion older than adam and eve. 4000 to 6000 bc. 
"Mother Goddess" figures found in Europe have been dated to around 14,000 BCE or older, I believe.
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni: "You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???" (May 28, 2019 at 2:25 pm)Drich Wrote: Glob... BULLSHIT! You really are a simpleton.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
(May 28, 2019 at 3:44 pm)wyzas Wrote:(May 28, 2019 at 2:25 pm)Drich Wrote: Glob... awe... poor unga bunga (cave man) don't understand... let me see if I can fix it for you unga.. You see if Adam and eve did walk out of a garden their linage would have settled in sumria which means those people would have carried the word of mouth of creation, the flood all of it! which they would have made it apart of the ancient sumerian religions.. Remember Judaism did not start till after the exodus. which means abraham who was call out of his father house (who made idols for the sumerian gods) wasn't technically a religion. THAT! is why there is no evidence of jews building prymids in egypt. there wheren't any yet. they where simple semitic egyptians. which histroy does show where enslaved in the nile delta region. which again even after the exodus where still not jews meaning no law no torah no bible nothing to look at but a prophet raing down frogs flies and parting oceans. Do you get it yet? Of course there are older tellings of the stories in genesis and of course they are a little off. why? because that culture approeated the truth from the lineage of what would eventually become the jews! Duh!  RE: The Adam & Eve Myth - Origins
May 28, 2019 at 4:16 pm
(This post was last modified: May 28, 2019 at 4:16 pm by madog.)
(May 28, 2019 at 2:25 pm)Drich Wrote: how many year was it between adam and eve and the establishment of jerusalem?Lets work this out ... Scholars believe the first human settlements in Jerusalem took place during the Early Bronze Age—somewhere around 3500 B.C. Ken Ham considers the earth is 6,000 years old Gets out calculator ... Sorry this is only an estimation
Religion is the top shelf of the supernatural supermarket ... Madog
My mistake on the earlier post.
The oldest "Venus" figure, "the Venus of Hohle Fels (sp?)" is between 35 and 40 thousand years old. Carved from wooly mammoth ivory. 200 such figures have been found so, unless it's stone age porn, I think that would likely constitute some form of religious worship. Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni: "You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"  (May 28, 2019 at 2:25 pm)Drich Wrote: Glob... A likely hypothesis, indeed. However, it does not address the OP or the discussion I'm presently having with the fundie/creationist. Are there extant texts showing parallels between the Babylonian or Sumerian texts and those of Genesis, specifically the first man and woman? Citations needed.
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