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Why was Adam exempt from the transgression when the transgression was disobedience?
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Why was Adam exempt from the transgression when the transgression was disobedience?
Why was Adam exempt from the transgression when the transgression was disobedience?

"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14)

I think that Adam, not being deceived, was more culpable than Eve.

Why then did God favor the guiltiest, Adam, with, --- he shall rule over you?

Men rule over women? Why when men were not deceived but disobeyed?

What was the transgression, --- if not a wise decision to choose knowledge and wisdom and shun immortality of the flesh, --- even if that were possible, --- and why was Adan not punished as hard as Eve when he was clearly more guilty?

Regards
DL
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RE: Why was Adam exempt from the transgression when the transgression was disobedience?
Can we just skip ahead to the bit where you tell us yet again that the ideal model for husband/wife relations is patriarchy based on your desire to implement the law of the sea on land as an unsubstantiated categorical imperative? We don't need to meander through Genesis to get there.
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RE: Why was Adam exempt from the transgression when the transgression was disobedience?
Why was either one of them punished when they didn't know good from bad until they did something bad?
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RE: Why was Adam exempt from the transgression when the transgression was disobedience?
Why does anyone fall for blind obedience at all? In the story neither Adam or Eve had any say in how the game was set up. God also didn't need their consent to set up the rules. In reality we would never tolerate an immovable leader and we also have the opportunity to change laws we do not like.
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RE: Why was Adam exempt from the transgression when the transgression was disobedience?
In short woma/Eve was deceived when the serpent told her if she ate of the fruit she would not die. She ate, and noted she did not die. So she took this information and taught/imparted it to Adam. For this, transgression women are not to teach, in Paul's message to Timothy.
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RE: Why was Adam exempt from the transgression when the transgression was disobedience?
Women are weak and stupid. They don't have souls like men do.

The men who wrote the bible were heavily invested in a patriarchal system. They wanted a book that reflected that. So when they were coming up with the word of god these views colored their writing.
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RE: Why was Adam exempt from the transgression when the transgression was disobedience?
Quote: She ate, and noted she did not die.

But she was right, Drippy. She did not die which makes your god a fucking liar.
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RE: Why was Adam exempt from the transgression when the transgression was disobedience?
(September 11, 2014 at 12:31 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote: She ate, and noted she did not die.

But she was right, Drippy. She did not die which makes your god a fucking liar.

Which should, by the logic Drich just presented, preclude god from teaching, making the new testament sinful... Thinking

But please do spin around and give us the usual "spiritual death" nonsense, Drich. I'm sure we'll all ignore that it isn't present in the text at all! Rolleyes
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(September 10, 2014 at 3:11 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: Why was Adam exempt from the transgression when the transgression was disobedience?

"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14)

I think that Adam, not being deceived, was more culpable than Eve.

Why then did God favor the guiltiest, Adam, with, --- he shall rule over you?

Men rule over women? Why when men were not deceived but disobeyed?

What was the transgression, --- if not a wise decision to choose knowledge and wisdom and shun immortality of the flesh, --- even if that were possible, --- and why was Adan not punished as hard as Eve when he was clearly more guilty?

Regards
DL

Why was every single member of the human race born subsequent to Adam and Eve doomed to death for their alleged failings?

That is much more pertinent to me.

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RE: Why was Adam exempt from the transgression when the transgression was disobedience?
(September 11, 2014 at 12:54 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Why was every single member of the human race born subsequent to Adam and Eve doomed to death for their alleged failings?

That is much more pertinent to me.

Because no sentence can be unfair or just if God hands it out. It's the same lame excuse that toadies have been giving to explain the injustice and unfairness of their favorite tyrants since the beginning of time.
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