[Serious] Processed meat

[Fake Messiah]

Well there is this new thing called "Beyond Meat" that is "meat" based on plants that is supposedly so good that it is almost identical to real thing. It is already served in some Burger Kings, McDonald's, KFC.

They even plan to grow that industry to (how much did they say exactly) $10B in next few years.

Even Penn & Teller are promoting it

[onlinebiker]

A Penn and Teller burger is all smoke and mirrors...

[notimportant1234]

Being overweight and lack of exercise contribute to an individuals cancer risk. Lets tax sloth and gluttony!

I already sayed the method of diminishing consumption of this aliments does not have to be taxation and that it is not the subject of the topic.

[Fake Messiah]

A Penn and Teller burger is all smoke and mirrors...

Well, onlinebiker, you like to eat venison, but do you like it more than meat from caged animals?

[onlinebiker]

A Penn and Teller burger is all smoke and mirrors...

Well, onlinebiker, you like to eat venison, but do you like it more than meat from caged animals?

There is less difference than you would think.

Mostly - because the deer in my area eat pretty much the same things the cattle eat. They probably eat better.

The only caged animals I eat is chicken - which tastes pretty much like whatever you cook it with.

And my comment was more for levity than a point of discussion..

[Anomalocaris]

If you're going to eat meat, your only choice is processed meat.  Unprocessed meat means something like a live cow (an animal known to put up strenuous and vigorous objections to being eaten).

Consumption of carcinogenic chemicals doesn't mean that you WILL get cancer, it means that your chances of getting cancer are increased.  Other things that have the potential to be deadly and  that should be taxed:

-Going outdoors.

-Not going outdoors.

-Walking instead of cycling.

-Cycling instead of walking.

-Eating food.

-Failing to eat food.

-Driving your car.

-Driving someone else's car.

-Not driving a car.

Also, can you explain how taxing things is going to reduce their inherent risk? If you prohibitively tax sugar and processed meats, you're cutting off sources of calories and nutrients to people who can't afford the tax.  In other words, you're replacing a minimal risk of diabetes or cancer with a much greater risk of malnutrition.

Boru

Let's not be pedantic.   If you are willing to bite deeply into a dead cow lying in the middle of a field,  I will give you a pass as far as having eaten unprocessed meat goes.

[arewethereyet]

You know what else can increase your chances of getting cancer? Genetics. How do you plan to tax that?

[Anomalocaris]

I think it is already known that procesead meats cause cancer, for the ones that don't know here is a link to WHO cancer causing substances:  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_...arcinogens
It is on Wikipedia list because the official one is bigger.
Given that there is evidence that this products cause cancer you don't see a lot of fuss about this. Aside from vegan activists I don't see people bringing this subject up. Keep in mind that they are in the same group as cigarettes, although they are not as dangerous as vegan activist want you to believe.
 Instead you see a lot of fuss about sugar, Singapore declared a war on diabetes, my country is taking into consideration a tax on sugar, but no one is speaking about a tax on salami.
 From what we know processed meats are worthy to be taxed in the same way that cigarettes are taxed but nobody in the political sphere is proposing it. Why do  you think that the problem is ignored? Do you think that the meat industry has a stronger lobby that the sugar industry?
 I'm not saying that that the impact on suger is not negative on our health but I think that we should tackle processed meats first. Both of them can be taxed simultaneously and I think we should at least consider it.

No one is forcing you to eat spam.     Second hand spam eating is not known to cause cancer.    Spam can littering is not known to be a challenge to public sanitation.

[notimportant1234]

You know what else can increase your chances of getting cancer?  Genetics.  How do you plan to tax that?

 Soo we should let corporations do whatever the fuck they want regardless of the consequences?

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I think it is already known that procesead meats cause cancer, for the ones that don't know here is a link to WHO cancer causing substances:  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_...arcinogens
It is on Wikipedia list because the official one is bigger.
Given that there is evidence that this products cause cancer you don't see a lot of fuss about this. Aside from vegan activists I don't see people bringing this subject up. Keep in mind that they are in the same group as cigarettes, although they are not as dangerous as vegan activist want you to believe.
 Instead you see a lot of fuss about sugar, Singapore declared a war on diabetes, my country is taking into consideration a tax on sugar, but no one is speaking about a tax on salami.
 From what we know processed meats are worthy to be taxed in the same way that cigarettes are taxed but nobody in the political sphere is proposing it. Why do  you think that the problem is ignored? Do you think that the meat industry has a stronger lobby that the sugar industry?
 I'm not saying that that the impact on suger is not negative on our health but I think that we should tackle processed meats first. Both of them can be taxed simultaneously and I think we should at least consider it.

No one is forcing you to eat spam.     Second hand spam eating is not known to cause cancer.    Spam can littering is not known to be a challenge to public sanitation.

  No one is forcing you to smoke but you still have warnings about the danger of smoking. Although eating processed meats it's not as bad as smoking it doesn't justify letting it unregulated.
  And it was proven that eating processed meats increases your risk of cancer.

[Anomalocaris]

Walking across the street increases your chance of being hit by moving cars. Need a label at every street corner?